From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 38b2fe17 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 18:02:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3CC41A184D; Sat, 23 Jun 2018 04:02:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDEDA183F; Sat, 23 Jun 2018 04:01:45 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=dd4C/7bh; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 89F1FA1818; Sat, 23 Jun 2018 04:01:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-it0-f41.google.com (mail-it0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07D93A1815 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2018 04:01:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-it0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k17-v6so6162081ita.0 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 11:01:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=w+t9JhGN9ds8aGcB9O9d1DlOeaCd1/kWiMuW3yEP9Q4=; b=dd4C/7bh/ef8WRMdHP5MfR/xjGQFMdinrhrzjI5f8sek2jWlc24FW8ZrDWj/stj6+l aO59l0ac01onQfJIFyGHsWJAP5oD765jKXIdEJjd0JBGjcKmf/0cm/rga9tFabsIeclX RGC9tNtePFplaVUeWACokiobeE8EQPvlXAdx5wRX3RGmZNdOzKw7BoKgqpmEA73/sNDJ WGfCNr5FjR4NejGjr+wLd7QdvYMt8ioaRPtvP8uogqPquiv3yEAKWVuPMB97VQzAhKdy uh7P7CABUc7sXcei4j1JXJfGv3klUypEpD3BWCmeOVD/PhlAbTTwwZCnM7ZOmGFIysED Bwfw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=w+t9JhGN9ds8aGcB9O9d1DlOeaCd1/kWiMuW3yEP9Q4=; b=YDHuKuk6ltYqI4XdLs4EFWqY+ohDSod7SiVE/IkfiGbcg06Ei/gyiQCQmsaV7xwA1r jPrKCy6hTeAujtcFDaa+6xsDFxr4RM10qouUilChv1N+026MYc5L6cmzdEulOmddznUK MMwFq5e+DyU98uP+jiHD/cq2my7B2ylBCjG8SOkX+Tfz3/jNuT1Zn391vZ+DMaKOQswz oSaGBNpJZ+DyDInU1kYDlPh9nBOvy6wsLP1g/AgqkE4dblWwkqgcFTroP/tZmM+1rrmO LeAQxUSykjKzzhu1R83pSGftEfg3lE56qgoBNiuqIRp6tUaePq7RvHBDhUKHtoXkOU9y WNqA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3+f4h3xAba1CzR4Yge7fuF7K0s+KN3otxwR8eo/0iXFbDJiMLQ sy9scXMa2ALrYJpFinEcGvs9w7zQSKzUS0SmjEfH8hOn X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJv7an/cBrHJRYzAmmXuXpcwODNWe8SEuYIOpeLrSl3XEppv3KIq+6nStSdL5wInSS+THgUtbsxMRl/qRctalQ= X-Received: by 2002:a24:74d8:: with SMTP id o207-v6mr491234itc.26.1529690480269; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 11:01:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180621234706.GA23316@minnie.tuhs.org> <20180622142846.GS21272@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20180622142846.GS21272@mcvoy.com> From: Dan Cross Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 14:00:43 -0400 Message-ID: To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b15fd2056f3ed1f4" Subject: Re: [TUHS] off-topic list X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000b15fd2056f3ed1f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 10:29 AM Larry McVoy wrote: > For the record, I'm fine with old stuff getting discussed on TUHS. > Even not Unix stuff. With the caveat that I must acknowledge that I've been guilty of wandering off topic more often than I should, it occurs to me that when discussing the history of something, very often the histories of other things necessarily feed into that history and become intertwined and inseparable. There was a lot of "stuff" happening in the computer industry at the time Unix was created, in it's early years, and on in its (continuing) evolution, and that "stuff" surely impacted Unix in one way or another. If we really want to understand where Unix came from and why it is, we must open ourselves to understanding those influences as well. That said, of course, there's a balance. Having a place one could point to and respectfully say, "Hey, this has gone on for 50+ messages; could you move it over to off-tuhs?" might be useful for folks who want to deep-dive on something. We wandered into Linux/ext2 with Ted, that was fun. > Indeed. I'll go further and confess that I use TUHS as a learning resource that influences by work professionally. There's a lot of good information that comes across this list that gets filed away in my brain and manifests itself in surprising ways by informing my work. I selfishly want that to continue. - Dan C. --000000000000b15fd2056f3ed1f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Jun 22= , 2018 at 10:29 AM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy= .com> wrote:
For the record, I'm fine with old stuff getting discussed on TUHS.<= br> Even not Unix stuff.

With the caveat that I= must acknowledge that I've been guilty of wandering off topic more oft= en than I should, it occurs to me that when discussing the history of somet= hing, very often the histories of other things necessarily feed into that h= istory and become intertwined and inseparable. There was a lot of "stu= ff" happening in the computer industry at the time Unix was created, i= n it's early years, and on in its (continuing) evolution, and that &quo= t;stuff" surely impacted Unix in one way or another. If we really want= to understand where Unix came from and why it is, we must open ourselves t= o understanding those influences as well.

That sai= d, of course, there's a balance. Having a place one could point to and = respectfully say, "Hey, this has gone on for 50+ messages; could you m= ove it over to off-tuhs?" might be useful for folks who want to deep-d= ive on something.

We wandered into Linux/ext2 with Ted, that was fun.

Indeed. I'll go further and confess that I us= e TUHS as a learning resource that influences by work professionally. There= 's a lot of good information that comes across this list that gets file= d away in my brain and manifests itself in surprising ways by informing my = work. I selfishly want that to continue.

=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Dan C.


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