From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12188 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2023 17:09:50 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Feb 2023 17:09:50 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D917941275; Sat, 4 Feb 2023 03:09:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-f52.google.com (mail-lf1-f52.google.com [209.85.167.52]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D123C41274 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2023 03:09:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-f52.google.com with SMTP id f34so8662258lfv.10 for ; Fri, 03 Feb 2023 09:09:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=gRTB0gEk+lOsxSmqADNzok/Jd7bg+HUyOHszPwNo8LU=; b=PaMDj11qS1WQ3TG/nxd4FUS3SE/mLfDbX7Rm3O7grd45t4dRY/Fd6z3LjRRGTsok6d b82UXV9X5XeOajt4EiS5vIDeiZIAOfVJWuQvHC+eDnTJNf2U2lAHTU19ejjMlyClVjxc npAj/nJDsFOiLR40CC6Hj7iTCxZrCxikJookJg/PgQ7wgRPRrx4TODQqz67QqntiOn5m 8chO16yCbBSUTLZkGaGXs7GUVL9He4pS2Hua36OB6xR9abUODlPqKlJZzvB4nxnZ2JF4 GTkWlO3OFPAiRLUX4k0R5H2TaWj/EiBeFwWDCl4HwQlKQRaRQ5FzFolaaaOSdfrdAKaE GLbA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=gRTB0gEk+lOsxSmqADNzok/Jd7bg+HUyOHszPwNo8LU=; b=J9kjn2q92u0wJp0wP3LtvyS0GZss/SajnPX7nW2xWoTLnELO4hZdSYajbTM+2Zd6SF ljKoFtXWC5Za40DsNPhSzR25UAPtPsji8di2nrUerViV0ri3JAIDGPYHqdoe/JGp+C47 k54k+Gs0aIBIcn0WvI1xUc4ijIOKUZduTHfLCZWP3xMZT38HKO/CB/Sy+J4eXZdWLoZb zjVM5z8SQNBE8iEmnr54Ou5BKz4qgov1fMrXTLz6rx3KlLx3a2wyvhO1KQUzNwbnowGC +L/l8FJudroCkmd8SRtgyBcxE7ed5yECvuSND7X5fYMecMylSnYSnpNS+X1U/7/h2ATP oBvA== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKUr62kKXTpusKJ7uJe62r+EsR51/jNM4TT1oXiVw2n62VHDAfs+ WruMHZ5u/EgUuehxRyEPiiSk28F2WRyNqzlXuY4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set8WYUj+979izqIPjnAA5pOgSfPQGKpl2UDTWtVKFvxo8S/684U+U8e0DRklbakJjE6myhfbV2LU65nEqUnEAYA= X-Received: by 2002:a19:9148:0:b0:4b5:706c:ab80 with SMTP id y8-20020a199148000000b004b5706cab80mr1578500lfj.226.1675444119253; Fri, 03 Feb 2023 09:08:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20230202190232.C79D118C073@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <73d0b98b-ae3f-428d-1b2e-feada7fc98a1@case.edu> <20230203141540.GS30555@mcvoy.com> <20230203165420.GB19745@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20230203165420.GB19745@mcvoy.com> From: Dan Cross Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2023 12:08:02 -0500 Message-ID: To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID-Hash: PYZQDFL6GAS7IRC6Z2OVJFYXD2T4FVHP X-Message-ID-Hash: PYZQDFL6GAS7IRC6Z2OVJFYXD2T4FVHP X-MailFrom: crossd@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Proper use of TUHS (was Re: Typesetter C compiler) List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 11:54 AM Larry McVoy wrote: > Well, be careful listening to gray beards too much. Hey now, my own beard has more grey than brown at this point. > [snip] > the old rules don't apply. That's precisely why I think it's important to think about new directions in systems. But there's so much reinvention of the square wheel, it at least makes sense to be _aware_ of the history. > [snip] > Personally, I'm fine with some amount of "list about new systems where > we can ask about history because that helps us build those new systems". > Might be just me, I love systems discussions. Agreed. But TUHS is not that list, I don't think. - Dan C.