From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACC730F05 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:10:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420994273A; Sat, 14 Dec 2024 07:10:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-x12a.google.com (mail-lf1-x12a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12a]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA96B4272B for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2024 07:10:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-x12a.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-5401be44b58so2209805e87.0 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2024 13:10:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1734124212; x=1734729012; darn=tuhs.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=hc5728MDqidSIyUtQUUooOFC85tQyOTlEMNjh70BSt0=; b=kRS6iYvjvywWE7Yw2oBXuNKYNoM3KQvlHETRrLy2NWjqJYXvXnN1C0oeN2GC/QIe0/ zneFBIJOjCjpsnDovIBqlQ1zHohghFwkSlm92tKWMYzDULGSssyi8IIaw9y4DdI2k67n JyJBNRSigRM+JCtZUpiGJg1Uiz5KOSLyRWC8IK9iYxn9AKkPJrqyzw3gChpTyCTmPYAg jxeFxEKkdcHKGVxapWO8cHfvQwoo7EitT5KvOevhSyYdiB30VYYqA/ixYcpS3Mg7J841 xLRUM8ThkkUoAN1loWtw+L2jgD7oCFEa4Q+asLKVA+JhdkMzJc7kY3tgCnIzVN28ox5Q g5MA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1734124212; x=1734729012; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=hc5728MDqidSIyUtQUUooOFC85tQyOTlEMNjh70BSt0=; b=E5ONR0nqh/eWJexBR+UKFkLQQ3TiE56o0RrjYyhMyF9c1Y2msa5EkyYQF9nvVZ630c qA7/6Qcc7W6jilBIDcNGAXKTNpDz7B3YNvAJq/0YM8Q/oXKTbuZtXDXNRqyMulcDgSZK gvBL1HlQOKfXr1gNxyMclPvpAdOM/FTEy/JTGjCgr71GBr5fcRu1+35KBctzQj1X8Xiq Nv88hHTN7r9civGSRrUO2UMqYEDwLcEsbiUpciQfALmcgqLRNnqaXWnHcgRRCdbgpSVC sZcyR7lMPzyLEceJQGJ9ULYS+0TlDa8DgtOaIVH5Q/YRv96dNHENeJ8JqFa+kvPWTYvB +Y6g== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUzNhQLgzdtB80XvMWGt2PhpKCwq19Cq6UG5SsnG7YfZyw1fXJ1CpQumhNPotY4jKkzZMWf@tuhs.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yyz/frMoxrvaEK4O/VhOR5qRKSBo1UCgfHsO1N3Xmg11EW9rwcF myO3Kdz7xSibxOAY74T02VDdil4WCdwL/JWUVRzp8kJ1VevwQfwr6E8ibZp5nhGPLgZkiI5XS55 N9bi3UB9v1OxyqdQQWPRbJitkeVg= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncu9LC6BZDZkx18JoqW/SsP+EVTHCDmP+bFWgQa+NLgJ2dAszDc7MWNe1XCvsdt ktkCIrlMN/2qgXYP9S0pemoVHwMBMyhye3XIe/bmcyVllb1q8hVpDZ2mZOdSkfPDhZJdPmaw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHJF3HVcLa0DwOB3gYEUR81UuiCAyv3ykj2Cwf5xlB3bop2sq+xp2t7i+0FOl9xs7E+vr2dGui/EcNUux/8id4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:1594:b0:540:1cf2:9aeb with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-54090557ea4mr1206158e87.19.1734124211709; Fri, 13 Dec 2024 13:10:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dan Cross Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 16:09:35 -0500 Message-ID: To: Marc Rochkind Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: 55NVOWWQVVLLFCFFFYU4DLCY6NCKQKY7 X-Message-ID-Hash: 55NVOWWQVVLLFCFFFYU4DLCY6NCKQKY7 X-MailFrom: crossd@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Mark Seiden , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: SCCS roach motel List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 3:28=E2=80=AFPM Marc Rochkind = wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 10:03=E2=80=AFAM Mark Seiden = wrote: >> (I know there is a special place in hell for those who explain a joke, b= ut, you asked=E2=80=A6) >> >> it=E2=80=99s just an allusion to the Black Flag Roach Motel product (sti= ll being produced) >> which has a trademark on the phrase =E2=80=9CRoaches Check in=E2=80=A6 B= ut they Don=E2=80=99t Check Out=E2=80=9D. > > Yeah, I knew that much. My question to Ken was about what this was saying= about SCCS. I had heard a story once, that based on what you wrote today, I now think is apocryphal and never actually happened. The story was that there was a bug in early SCCS where a source file had to be checked in twice before it could be (successfully) checked out. The bug was such that if one only checked it in once and tried to check it out, it would truncate the file. "Programmers using it just learned to check in twice." I never used SCCS extensively, and certainly never observed that behavior, so chucked it up to the bug having been long fixed. As I mentioned above, I doubt it was ever there to begin with. A fun story, though. - Dan C.