From: crossd@gmail.com (Dan Cross)
Subject: [TUHS] System Economics (was is Linux "officially branded UNIX")
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 16:54:32 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W5mW2o0eEqt9A_ayPsRDBJ7U1QFxOK-_F39bvy7Uew9zw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Arthur Krewat <krewat at kilonet.net> wrote:
>
>> So what I'm hearing is Linux's timeline, which includes things that were
>> not developed just for Linux, extends further out than SunOS does.
>>
>
> Mumble... the problem of course is the under those rules, SunOS goes
> back to research which goes back to V0....
>
...and Multics, whatever assembler DEC provided for the PDP-7 and so on
back to the discovery of the integers and zero. Pretty soon you find
yourself in the court of the Chola empire....
...
>> All I'm saying is comparing Linux's timeline to something like SunOS has
>> to include everything that went into both because they both relied on
>> precursors.
>>
> Except for any possible legal reasons....why differentiate ? Looks like
> a Duck, Quacks Like Duck or from a Turing Test.... I'm mostly can not tell
> the difference.
>
Being too like a duck carries its own risks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU
Somehow, I feel that clip is an apt metaphor for the computing world in
general and Linux in particular, but I'm having a hard time articulating
exactly how.
Side note: I'm a bit of a bitch when it comes to Linux - which doesn't mean
>> I don't think Linux is "UNIX" - it just means I think it's the Coherent of
>> today's UNIX ;)
>>
> I guess it doesn't matter to me that much. Some of the changes are
> gratuitous and annoying, which brings out my inner curmudgeon as its make
> its tough to type to sometimes. But the fact is, UNIX, Linux, Macos are
> pretty much the same thing - much more so than winders. They are way more
> similar than different and I can be productive with all three. To me its
> like ethnicity in people. It says a little about some of how you might
> look at something, what some of you shared positions/starting points are,
> but we are way more alike than different and I would rather learn from the
> differences than fight them or try to inflict my wishes. We are better
> with diversity.
>
Well said!
- Dan C.
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2017-03-14 20:05 Clem Cole
2017-03-14 20:16 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-14 20:54 ` Dan Cross [this message]
2017-03-14 21:19 ` Clem Cole
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2017-03-16 15:40 Norman Wilson
2017-03-16 17:26 ` William Pechter
2017-03-16 18:45 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-16 22:17 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-14 19:01 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-14 14:43 Clem Cole
2017-03-14 15:38 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-14 15:51 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-14 15:56 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-14 15:57 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-03-14 16:20 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-14 18:06 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-14 18:31 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-14 18:59 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-14 18:20 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-14 19:48 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-15 14:32 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-03-15 15:36 ` Arthur Krewat
[not found] ` <58c9623b.law1Aw2ufj3DFNA1%schily@schily.net>
2017-03-15 15:54 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-15 15:59 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-15 17:43 ` Warner Losh
2017-03-15 19:02 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-15 19:14 ` Warner Losh
2017-03-14 18:41 ` Warner Losh
2017-03-14 18:18 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-14 16:20 ` tfb
2017-03-14 22:45 ` Josh Good
2017-03-15 1:11 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-15 7:55 ` arnold
2017-03-15 19:28 ` Josh Good
2017-03-15 19:35 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-15 20:26 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-15 23:22 ` 'Josh Good'
2017-03-15 19:45 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-15 20:27 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-15 20:48 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-15 23:46 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-16 0:45 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-16 1:27 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-03-16 3:09 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-16 3:18 ` Charles Anthony
2017-03-16 3:36 ` Dan Cross
2017-03-16 4:08 ` arnold
2017-03-16 12:51 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-16 13:18 ` William Pechter
2017-03-17 21:20 ` Josh Good
2017-03-16 15:42 ` Chet Ramey
2017-03-16 17:29 ` William Pechter
2017-03-15 23:55 ` Josh Good
2017-03-16 0:05 ` William Pechter
2017-03-15 20:08 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-16 0:46 ` Wesley Parish
2017-03-16 0:52 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-16 19:47 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-17 2:16 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-17 15:55 ` Warner Losh
2017-03-17 21:11 ` Dave Horsfall
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