From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 25880 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2023 19:36:37 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 8 Mar 2023 19:36:37 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16CD41305; Thu, 9 Mar 2023 05:36:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-x135.google.com (mail-lf1-x135.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::135]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A58C41302 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2023 05:36:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-x135.google.com with SMTP id m6so22743316lfq.5 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 11:36:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1678304186; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=xBnoEScuKqkbhqIU9WZF3LniJV/1QYN8PmA/UnrtYFY=; b=jb20HbkMsUcDsnaTM1xaRjX3C0BdcJqCRj2JGDtx5Hh3TThMLnUXT64iIiMmvVBcp2 3fOzfYakvhFgS1rZM7aTBPh65FtTg785FLZbMMqt4WQtqYcymnXrl0et2txSAlu0G3QX 3sJHL6P2zBkIeHWQaaSTHcCLSxiVd/l40C+WghTy48q5ITZWoKCAFrrjU+aZQmlufvwk ycj1At+GXsTHsGPlNzaM2gwwDqQFR2ozwgq1023hk2Q8O/evW+OpLvviRJuuLptrwfyZ JylXA8x04EgS1i1UL0B8DF61G5jgaBDzP9fRZcE4C97BUaz+dhwc35XHGRkk09IindAw TmIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1678304186; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=xBnoEScuKqkbhqIU9WZF3LniJV/1QYN8PmA/UnrtYFY=; b=pxc+MIrAYNLF7vyHjeEcca5QQOFNtuPjN1WIS27/UPogTlfLWjquUHvNDNF/rwsRLp egclGCKFHad/CdlY3t9SAyg2iKIvgevX+RISzdONiK0UlU3btPksAZLjA4d1B9b73gQC jx3wR6SB3VjCdqgQ5MOvPEeu3gCwrFkaQ3u4qUTlxk+s9cY8wNHygdcx5IE79lLOgBLP IeFfWjbiWpumHBLxRLyMSWqvT05I4WmfgetAv50EkahlMC+zT1FFtKnAYhv5bXardaLp YHvfUnHoZSW9AaGf0Fg0kXEtxJarPQadrhTaxwpu2a6DnuUavluRskuqso8XFtX6Pf2T kMVA== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKWVbUOdp3e4KwZN4kpBhK3p1mgXFtN7KiGxjzh/pyl3+vp39LuE cCz0G+GAZvmg0JRaDz5L6iNxD8Xs1xa7YUDl0Mf+IyrT X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set/ceVR/2N1Edqh2r29g9/HP0o0KgD3wELpArxmjb8lgxkvN6yqiQmzyJkQkiGNz4d1bwjXiSTQTNGwsmaJtBoo= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:5fe6:0:b0:4db:2554:93a2 with SMTP id s6-20020ac25fe6000000b004db255493a2mr5858417lfg.10.1678304185740; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 11:36:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1297BE06-BE03-477A-AC60-40A269090295@planet.nl> <73309724-1F69-49D4-B54B-63DD298CBD27@planet.nl> <30409071-EB8E-4370-A1E6-8364FC3A662E@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <30409071-EB8E-4370-A1E6-8364FC3A662E@planet.nl> From: Dan Cross Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 14:35:49 -0500 Message-ID: To: Paul Ruizendaal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: PPWG62TQCQSDGWC4CASRQNVXEZMVH553 X-Message-ID-Hash: PPWG62TQCQSDGWC4CASRQNVXEZMVH553 X-MailFrom: crossd@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: "tuhs@tuhs.org" X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Origins of the frame buffer device List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 10:06=E2=80=AFAM Paul Ruizendaal wro= te: > > On 8 Mar 2023, at 15:23, Dan Cross wrote: > > I wouldn't try to be too rigid in your terms here. The term > > "workstation" was probably never well-defined; it had more of an > > intuitive connotation of a machine that was more powerful than > > something you could get on the consumer market (like a PC or 8-bit > > microcomputer), but wasn't a minicomputer or mainframe/supercomputer. > > Yes, I got a bit carried away there. The point I was trying to make was i= n context of the wheel of reincarnation, though: if the system is a Vax and= a Blit, we could conceptually think of the Blit as an accelerated graphics= card for the Vax, having made one full revolution. If this is nonsense, wh= y is the Magnolia different? I don't think it's nonsense. I do think it is reaching a bit to draw an analogy that was probably unconsidered at the time, but that's ok. I think the study of history turns up such things all the time. - Dan C.