From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31263 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2021 19:29:25 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Feb 2021 19:29:25 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 637439C906; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 05:29:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974979C8F7; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 05:28:52 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="h4mYEmGK"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 65E139C8F7; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 05:28:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-f47.google.com (mail-ot1-f47.google.com [209.85.210.47]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 895769C8EF for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 05:28:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-f47.google.com with SMTP id s107so12184049otb.8 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 11:28:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=e+QBRyS1lmAIKtev6rrE8l3bHSBWELJkURim3sx2IYg=; b=h4mYEmGKf9B3Iypu8jOJhIJgyWIef3Wyv86DnMfS/9+X6dwFgs8Lo3pz8ZZB5IdDhk TH1IjzKQRSUJniyUfEGSvCOhzFdppJ/K0s900Tfp71Q60/bLB2ZlHW7/SkoXJmeWHxNF Wuv8gbu/91JuVr199Gz3cSLqbIjLdqDVfjZg8ZZNc5otrbODeg1unIDbCKKOkLBnhJ3e Eb6KiPisJPzUryrXJkVw9cyGmrNYsCXk0Cvo/EIXHXYYAv4IiqnPxWJ84FfwxeZhCG8o 5kpLLu1tKtv7NT0RSYLAnyXVx2AQVV5L4W6wnK+HmZi64hdhcfLjvOBt40kStOrqenKB E8fA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=e+QBRyS1lmAIKtev6rrE8l3bHSBWELJkURim3sx2IYg=; b=oMmWmfcOokestSzya460RFz2eS4cnl1+ZkAWofxh6scUtUZRucRoeHjHCsMV0ndRMQ 2UOZB6IDxDQx1/AwdYMdvyYyDe2M++yxDRDHwbvoteawujeRe9SDIzBsHdd6n1VmgcyJ CH/xoxjZQd9L75coY971JyhOtWppi3t8EuxJXe7zGFi8H1Y5uaO5Hb4b3F8Mfx6RAsyK JNCJ9rbNvBZYqBXM0ItPL2h+CGPJ8Si+nmnuu5qxEaKHvWntlslEf8r7UbCV889Tn0jB WYkzQT0ZyTWTDI/8o71WbsgdxbsKGeEUF02OqP+TQo3yut0keyzmDqcWLehOeK/VG6sT obow== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530kj1bhPvnxmPVMKwI0UE3o6Y62twxTdzzlcvK5BHOArJIsD6Ww hYMfRy3CrKkdwUed9bI1kzz+2FAJUFS1Feuj202LFa38AA8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw7v3DRV54AjF4WJ1EhVKMnViXl8/wrNqkRPqF0SUtypABiifY/SSEG6xoGj3FC2fxeu62KS0B96Q2oq1Vp2Js= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1411:: with SMTP id v17mr4681549otp.313.1612726122772; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 11:28:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5cb7edc8-7d43-aa3a-334f-18e17aa2fa16@gmail.com> <2ffbcab8-b651-c3f9-d4ed-e9ff792cfde6@mhorton.net> <1a7a35b7-4105-20b7-65ed-1eabb663d0ca@mhorton.net> In-Reply-To: <1a7a35b7-4105-20b7-65ed-1eabb663d0ca@mhorton.net> From: Dan Cross Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 14:28:06 -0500 Message-ID: To: Mary Ann Horton Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000aafca005bac40fe6" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Typing tutors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000aafca005bac40fe6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 12:44 PM Mary Ann Horton wrote: > > I'm not surprised :-) We were all playing "rogue" back then. And my > > favourite terminal was indeed the ADM-3A; it just seemed to be > > designed for Unix, with the ESC key in the right place etc. > > I hated it when the PC-AT came along and moved Ctrl down and Esc up! I > depend on Ctrl being to the left of A and Esc left of 1, where God > intended them to be! I used a Sun keyboard with a DIN adapter for years, > until I came to SDG&E in 2007 and discovered a cache of USB Sun > keyboards, half with the UNIX layout (yay!) and half with the PC layout > (boo!) Word got around quickly that I liked them, and I wound up with > several UNIX layout Sun keyboards. For good measure, I bought a 10-pack > on eBay, so I'll have spares until the day they peel my cold dead > fingers away from my UNIX layout keyboard. > A few years ago I got to the point where my wrists just wouldn't take it anymore. I invested in an Evoluent vertical mouse (3 buttons! Well, really more than that, but the three in the "correct" positions were the ones I cared about) and a Kinesis Advantage keyboard. It took me about a week to learn how to type on the Kinesis, but I can't imagine going back now. I remapped the 'Caps Lock' key to control so that I've got a Control key where one is supposed to be, but the Esc key is a bit far away. It's not excessively so, but it is mildly annoying. Still, RSI no longer wakes me up at night, so on balance the tradeoff has been worth it. Some colleagues have suggested learning the Dvorak layout; I splurged for the Kinesis with the double QWERTY/Dvorak keycaps and a mode key and (relevant to the question here) I found some typing tutor program that would ostensibly teach me typing again. But like Morse code, it's never stuck. - Dan C. --000000000000aafca005bac40fe6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 12:44 PM Mary Ann = Horton <mah@mhorton.net> wrote= :
> I'm not surprised :-)=C2=A0 We were all playing "rogue" = back then.=C2=A0 And my
> favourite terminal was indeed the ADM-3A; it just seemed to be
> designed for Unix, with the ESC key in the right place etc.

I hated it when the PC-AT came along and moved Ctrl down and Esc up! I
depend on Ctrl being to the left of A and Esc left of 1, where God
intended them to be! I used a Sun keyboard with a DIN adapter for years, until I came to SDG&E in 2007 and discovered a cache of USB Sun
keyboards, half with the UNIX layout (yay!) and half with the PC layout (boo!) Word got around quickly that I liked them, and I wound up with
several UNIX layout Sun keyboards. For good measure, I bought a 10-pack on eBay, so I'll have spares until the day they peel my cold dead
fingers away from my UNIX layout keyboard.

<= div>A few years ago I got to the point where my wrists just wouldn't ta= ke it anymore.

I invested in an Evoluent vertical = mouse (3 buttons! Well, really more than that, but the three in the "c= orrect" positions were the ones I cared about) and a Kinesis Advantage= keyboard. It took me about a week to learn how to type on the Kinesis, but= I can't imagine going back now. I remapped the 'Caps Lock' key= to control so=C2=A0that I've got a Control key where one is supposed t= o be, but the Esc key is a bit far away. It's not excessively so, but i= t is mildly annoying. Still, RSI no longer wakes me up at night, so on bala= nce the tradeoff has been worth it.

Some colleague= s have suggested learning the Dvorak layout; I splurged for the Kinesis wit= h the double QWERTY/Dvorak keycaps and a mode key and (relevant to the ques= tion here) I found some typing tutor program that would ostensibly teach me= typing again. But like Morse code, it's never stuck.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Dan C.

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