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From: crossd@gmail.com (Dan Cross)
Subject: [TUHS] Shell control through external commands
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 14:27:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W62QMprW=AqXJ4aJuwxKnjydWfUgEpr7bRBQsWoc-gtkw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201609111739.u8BHd2pV146715@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU>

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Doug McIlroy <doug at cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> > IIRC #! originated at Bell Labs but it got out to the world via BSD.
> > Perhaps Dr. McIlroy could confirm / deny / expand upon the details
> (please?)
>
> I recall Dennis discussing the feature at some length before installing it.
> So the exact semantics, especially the injected argument, are almost]
> certainly his. I don't know whether he built on a model from elsewhere.
> #! appeared between v7 (1979) and v8 (1985). As v8 was never released,
> it clearly made its way into the world via BSD and USG. BSD, being
> more nimble, was likely first.
>

Also, 8th edition was essentially a re-port of 4.1c BSD, correct? If it
were already in BSD, it could conceivably come back into 8th edition via
that route. I found the following in /usr/src/sys/sys/TODO for 4.0BSD:

6. Exec fixes
>         Implement dmr's #! feature; pass string arguments through faster.


That would strongly imply that the feature originated with Dennis and was
known in Berkeley around the time for 4BSD.

4.0's 'getxfile()' in /usr/src/sys/sys/sys1.c does not recognize the '#!'
sequence as a magic number, but 'exece()' in /usr/src/sys/newsys/sys1.c
does. No mention of it came up in my cursory scan of 3bsd. So it was
certain present by the time of 4.1c, but not before 4BSD that I found.

        - Dan C.
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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-11 17:39 Doug McIlroy
2016-09-11 18:11 ` Clem Cole
2016-09-11 18:27 ` Dan Cross [this message]
2016-09-11 18:50   ` Sven Mascheck
2016-09-11 22:13     ` Random832
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-09-12 12:57 Norman Wilson
2016-09-12 12:56 Norman Wilson
2016-09-12  1:43 Norman Wilson
2016-09-12  9:18 ` Joerg Schilling
2016-09-12  1:31 Norman Wilson
2016-09-12  9:33 ` Joerg Schilling
2016-09-12  0:27 Doug McIlroy
2016-09-10 14:57 Nemo
2016-07-15 16:47 Doug McIlroy
2016-09-10 17:40 ` Dario Niedermann
2016-09-10 19:22   ` arnold
2016-09-12  8:35     ` markus schnalke
2016-09-12  9:25       ` Joerg Schilling
2016-09-12 12:41         ` Tony Finch
2016-09-12 12:50           ` Joerg Schilling
2016-09-13  0:17             ` Sven Mascheck
2016-09-13  1:45               ` Sven Mascheck
2016-09-13  9:20               ` Joerg Schilling
2016-09-12 20:12       ` Dave Horsfall
2016-09-12 21:36         ` Dave Horsfall
2016-09-10 22:43   ` Dave Horsfall
2016-09-11  1:24     ` Ron Natalie
2016-09-11  2:39       ` arnold
2016-09-11  2:41         ` Ronald Natalie
2016-09-11  4:07         ` Dave Horsfall
2016-09-11  5:01           ` arnold
2016-09-12  5:49             ` Dave Horsfall
2016-07-15 12:27 Norman Wilson
2016-09-10  7:45 ` Dario Niedermann
2016-09-10  9:13   ` Michael Kjörling
2016-09-10  9:41     ` Joerg Schilling
2016-09-10 17:06     ` Random832
2016-09-10 17:45       ` Dario Niedermann
2016-09-10 19:53         ` Dan Cross
2016-09-10 20:02         ` Chet Ramey
2016-09-10 20:27           ` Dario Niedermann
2016-09-11 10:03         ` Diomidis Spinellis
2016-09-12 10:05         ` Jacob Goense
2016-07-15  4:29 Rudi Blom
2016-07-14 13:18 Diomidis Spinellis
2016-07-14 13:23 ` Clem Cole
2016-07-14 14:12   ` Mary Ann Horton
2016-07-14 22:36   ` Dave Horsfall
2016-07-14 22:47     ` Corey Lindsly
2016-07-14 22:49     ` Peter Jeremy
2016-07-14 23:27       ` Marc Rochkind
2016-07-15 10:13         ` Joerg Schilling
     [not found]       ` <CAH_OBieVFzPn93L8=_fmbUycZ7UmYdXiopC0vgei6RGDZp0mHw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <CAH_OBie_6gFy+BqkCMj+sr0NqTMNOQxvgWf6SQnHMJpn7DAytA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-07-14 23:56           ` shawn wilson
2016-07-15  1:04             ` Dave Horsfall
2016-07-15  1:22               ` Steve Nickolas
2016-07-15  2:25               ` arnold
2016-07-16  6:26                 ` Dave Horsfall
2016-07-15  2:25             ` Random832
2016-07-15  3:59               ` Dave Horsfall
2016-07-15  4:09                 ` Random832
2016-07-15 13:55                 ` Chet Ramey
2016-07-14 23:10     ` Ronald Natalie
2016-07-15  1:41       ` Nemo
2016-07-15  9:00     ` Tony Finch
2016-07-14 14:11 ` schoedel
2016-07-14 14:38   ` Diomidis Spinellis
2016-07-14 15:46 ` John Cowan
2016-07-14 16:30   ` Random832
2016-07-14 22:32 ` Dave Horsfall

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