From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 3dcda7c5 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 05:13:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CB9C09BC90; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 15:13:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF8F9B92E; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 15:13:09 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="PO/Yh703"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id F090C9BBF9; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 15:13:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f181.google.com (mail-qk1-f181.google.com [209.85.222.181]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4FFF9B92E for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 15:13:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f181.google.com with SMTP id 21so3671733qky.4 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2019 21:13:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8/hnolrDDgWaLXReHPU5X6varcHm6esVaE1//qK5wTA=; b=PO/Yh703eVdtNnZmTVN+zo2Ma/sBi6tm8CXPEPuVDaM8Wkc2e/06bmFoWVm9Oiigs6 KAHEXDRCYA9kVXvHfqJ8b8BNh37biTDyvEUyBIaUqM/Bh0WdH3RsiDvVnhjcCn38Jy+x gY/0wo2Pdohi+U2z6CgQSezkwi0pl7/ps8+oqyo1sTdcVkx0k1yujfQh2v1td0ba0n/8 8EYPaN+nWw/qbE9vMsdWb9dfOUdYz3V/1RK5ZU1dzk/OrbAGuqhvoRmKESuuVn90BnEV tL61NNDTDQ5s0xx0w9rHnykD7wqUDOZNh+OgUb72uGTwFSfIG3BkRAyEOBwirUAXQzop MTMA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8/hnolrDDgWaLXReHPU5X6varcHm6esVaE1//qK5wTA=; b=JOClP1jQn2saOnayR1YWMqz3W57E+YO9r9u95E58pVV9xhYFKaL7fWiCKTcjzUNuOq X0gx4Nfpk82g//zjqCh3U8FH6QodiLtmHyP5tu4nsbtLd4KWlgIQGXqQoVyNIaVEJhPs Df9ntACVWo7Q34NFhP116qB1hqvZlE4Ty/RC0gSb9RwiJPhEEZruDWqKFF6wM8qlMWv1 ROn9eEmKk+ZAIcVT1kYg6dbAomovxRGoP/2lt0+IPQaO4zGhs2YsihCquOs/n4UIa3bw fve8/KQdoQMVLiRumoZ/0DjkKOtoWxYeaWagvoaQwpbJ6Nyq5TeOxaa/n+xWv/YwmSg2 1xBg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV3vCZb4COsxy0bQxgifOFlHubkGbEdXN8YtQOpsyveDnefONol YR1cNSa/ylFQFi9T2ql/sac8CyfS037S3upgz5Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqypP6ps7/eJHHEoH+e4HeG/WktgLVVQS8Ywz8rbyFIbQi6HEeX4fl7RejYBBtt6iQt4TErwJjLOFp0SRQaUM4I= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:1183:: with SMTP id b3mr6188994qkk.316.1576732384902; Wed, 18 Dec 2019 21:13:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1576714621.27293.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> In-Reply-To: From: Dan Cross Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 00:12:28 -0500 Message-ID: To: Rob Pike Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b54274059a079d04" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Blit source X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000b54274059a079d04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:27 PM Rob Pike wrote: > [snip] > The sequence is thus Jerq, Blit, DMD-5620. DMD stood for dot-mapped rather > than bit-mapped, but I never understood why. It seemed a category error to > me. > The first time I saw a terminal of that lineage, it was a gnot (Gnot? GNOT?) running Plan 9; this would likely have been 1993 or 1994; I was in high school and visited a college-student friend of mine who was interning at the labs and Dennis Ritchie had one on his desk. As an aside, he kindly spared me a few minutes; I confess I was too star-struck and embarrassed to ask him to autograph my copy of K&R that I had brought along. Dennis was a kind, humble person and I was always quite struck by that in comparison to some other academic and industry super-stars I've met. Anyway, my question is what was the evolutionary story of the gnot? I recall being told that it had a 68020, a datakit interface, and some amount of RAM that was small but non-trivial; perhaps 4MB? It seemed clearly evolved from the series of earlier terminals presently under discussion. And the next step in the evolution was a MIPS-based terminal; I can't recall the name, though. - Dan C. --000000000000b54274059a079d04 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:27 PM Rob Pike <= robpike@gmail.com> wrote:
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The sequence is thus Jerq, Blit, DMD-562= 0. DMD stood for dot-mapped rather than bit-mapped, but I never understood = why. It seemed a category error to me.

The first time I saw a terminal of that lineage, it was a gnot (Gno= t? GNOT?) running Plan 9; this would likely have been 1993 or 1994; I was i= n high school and visited a college-student friend of mine who was internin= g at the labs and Dennis Ritchie had one on his desk. As an aside, he kindl= y spared me a few minutes; I confess I was too star-struck and embarrassed = to ask him to autograph my copy of K&R that I had brought along. Dennis= was a kind, humble person and I was always quite struck by that in compari= son to some other academic and industry super-stars I've met.

Anyway, my question is what was the evolutionary story of t= he gnot? I recall being told that it had a 68020, a datakit interface, and = some amount of RAM that was small but non-trivial; perhaps 4MB? It seemed c= learly evolved=C2=A0from the series of earlier terminals presently under di= scussion.

And the next step in the evolution was a= MIPS-based terminal; I can't recall the name, though.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Dan C.

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