From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6787 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2023 21:22:54 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Feb 2023 21:22:54 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3711D432DF; Tue, 28 Feb 2023 07:22:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-x129.google.com (mail-lf1-x129.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::129]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA921432D8 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2023 07:22:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-x129.google.com with SMTP id f18so10431551lfa.3 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 13:22:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=0tg2PuLRh12sT8PshNJYK/kAsmA8N76nRDselI+wXvU=; b=PLwna40/w8Bitf+uDvq3zFMY0Cy5jmnhcVziLfrKMjzXUECXVHZHXcO7Xq+X/zpyEB mpr2u0TE/94CpYDNymGDaStNWrxuz6uIYF4ud9dZWZR/fwNMtVShjw2nzV4YglypfWgj 7cjxQrHO7kkio++D0/KaEgxFXEK6F2Z7Bg1kAGUre9rMsNPT+kZSaddx2SK38KUTbt03 OUOP44mDL4rQrRIGjDSOFzzcY/IUtmfRNoIEAyM7XWEOkpmLbDKLY7MgUAMm+y5y7Jws dASEI0T23BJKe9VcC1Vl6SWpllhMJAWodI9yIIoVzR+tXSGuvOn2mXF2FYYYXMqBqr12 1aaA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=0tg2PuLRh12sT8PshNJYK/kAsmA8N76nRDselI+wXvU=; b=SsX68m57McTkMZ1YjYjGUPkUiUL5/wnOj/rnBNk9G9eG6NNSBme2igdc3rHKM315zF TlJPu2TXCpurC8/HCJRD1kYTcjCpyHU464HoJC0LMVZNPYU5DIPRsvBst1KV+Mrvvuo9 DDaEm1CinUpTpeWdRqmRYFBkrGohv7Dwmjj57OU0QvL8X6KwcSSHY4zzjEzID0/7j6oK UxzSe7VJR1r5TgGRLacufZfnNojidqS6s9vJxKow8UdAL0j6DRp9w/awxg4Tl5Cq4wOg l080W/sySxYcSx+zZ+GuyXs2Fv7qsM9DE5zd/0FMx24+3pq0S1Q4aVsVbX9OiAPhAeye 3CjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKXW0m/Hrj34aG6UudO1THcFMH2R2ywYJqdzzH7xlQpnnBDL9lck FHyYoVbizteHR4amUeNjMDF1/yhA/2TJ35FvGpY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set/VCzaZKT3A0QXSbKN8i3gmg9OoLMvZXQjsFr8Sf9O9ZO38JkjwAsr2/TdNOnbTE3bI8LGqVuskMf88f3rEoOM= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:554b:0:b0:4dc:807a:d149 with SMTP id l11-20020ac2554b000000b004dc807ad149mr7973249lfk.10.1677532960627; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 13:22:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <16241ceb-fe92-7f25-bda0-0b327847728d@case.edu> <735c811e-62ce-5384-b83f-a3887baac89d@case.edu> In-Reply-To: <735c811e-62ce-5384-b83f-a3887baac89d@case.edu> From: Dan Cross Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:22:04 -0500 Message-ID: To: chet.ramey@case.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID-Hash: VT2VOGBZPT6S5U7IRGYQMD3EM3ALJY6V X-Message-ID-Hash: VT2VOGBZPT6S5U7IRGYQMD3EM3ALJY6V X-MailFrom: crossd@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: segaloco , Bakul Shah , COFF X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Generational development [was Re: Re: Early GUI on Linux] List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: [COFF] On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 4:16 PM Chet Ramey wrote: > On 2/27/23 4:01 PM, segaloco wrote: > > The official Rust book lists a blind script grab from a website piped into a shell as their "official" install mechanism. > > Well, I suppose if it's from a trustworthy source... > > (Sorry, my eyes rolled so hard they're bouncing on the floor right now.) I find this a little odd. If I go back to O'Reilly books from the early 90s, there was advice to do all sorts of suspect things in them, such as fetching random bits of pieces from random FTP servers (or even using email fetch tarballs [!!]). Or downloading shell archives from USENET. And of course you _can_ download the script and read through it if you want. And no one forces anyone to use `rustup`. Most vendors ship some version of Rust through their package management system these days. - Dan C.