From: crossd@gmail.com (Dan Cross)
Subject: [TUHS] RIP John Backus
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:50:37 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W6_JLMubF0yM4dH+ep6DTHCia9X666kSQGPCuOodUR2LQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
> I do remember, one of the big issues with UNIX being picked up into the EE
> department was the lack of a 'proper Fortran.' As much as modern
> languages like C and Pascal were clearly the direction, a lot of professors
> had a lot of code in FORTRAN they wanted to run.
>
> So now I live in a world were the best FORTRAN compilers are UNIX based
> and I don't write with FORTRAN anymore. I still have a ton of respect for
> those that do and even more for the wizards like Paul and co that have
> spent their careers creating compilers for FORTRAN that have spanned such
> changes in the underlying system hardware, as well as the language itself
> and keep those same user codes getting correct answers and using the
> hardware as well as can be.
>
And to bring this back around to Unix, here are a couple of random
questions....
First, in Dennis Ritchie's paper, "The Development of the C Language" (
https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/chist.html) he mentions the early
days of Unix, Ken taking Doug McIlroy's implementation of "TMG" on the
PDP-7 as a challenge and deciding to produce a "systems programming
language." The first effort was, apparently, "a rapidly scuttled attempt at
Fortran", followed by B.
I'm curious at the FORTRAN effort: what was that about, where did it come
from, and why was it abandoned?
Second, 7th Edition came with the "f77" command implementing
(unsurprisingly) Fortran 77. A paper by Stu Feldman and Peter Weinberger in
Volume 2 describes the compiler and includes this line: "This is believed
to be the first complete Fortran 77 system to be implemented." (
https://s3.amazonaws.com/plan9-bell-labs/7thEdMan/vol2/f77.txt)
Was that true? Notable in this paper is mention that the Fortran compiler
can drive the backend of either Ritchie's PDP-11 C compiler *or* Johnson's
portable C compiler. What was the local story? Did this see local use?
- Dan C.
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2018-03-16 21:52 Dave Horsfall
2018-03-16 23:42 ` Dan Stromberg
2018-03-17 0:08 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-03-17 0:26 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-03-17 0:36 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-03-17 1:40 ` Charles H Sauer
2018-03-17 1:57 ` Nemo
2018-03-17 7:20 ` Bakul Shah
2018-03-17 13:43 ` Clem Cole
2018-03-17 17:06 ` Steve Simon
2018-03-17 19:15 ` Pierre DAVID
2018-03-17 19:41 ` Charles Anthony
2018-03-18 11:02 ` Steve Simon
2018-03-17 19:22 ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-03-17 19:28 ` Mike Markowski
2018-03-18 18:51 ` Paul Winalski
2018-03-18 21:07 ` Clem Cole
2018-03-19 14:50 ` Dan Cross [this message]
2018-03-19 15:43 ` Clem Cole
2018-03-19 15:46 ` Clem Cole
2018-03-19 17:39 ` Paul Winalski
2018-03-19 17:43 ` George Michaelson
2018-03-19 18:16 ` Steve Nickolas
2018-03-19 17:48 ` Clem Cole
2018-03-19 17:59 ` Jon Forrest
2018-03-19 18:40 ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
2018-03-19 19:40 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-03-19 15:55 ` Clem Cole
2018-03-19 16:58 ` [TUHS] FORTRAN Steve Johnson
2018-03-19 17:32 ` Jon Forrest
2018-03-20 17:42 ` Paul Winalski
2018-03-20 17:47 ` George Michaelson
2018-03-19 18:47 ` Larry McVoy
2018-03-20 18:15 ` Dan Cross
2018-03-20 19:55 ` Ron Natalie
2018-03-20 20:21 ` Paul Winalski
2018-03-20 20:27 ` Warner Losh
2018-03-21 8:10 ` Peter Jeremy
2018-03-21 20:56 ` Ron Natalie
2018-03-21 21:15 ` Dennis Boone
2018-03-20 21:36 ` Clem Cole
2018-03-20 21:59 ` Ron Natalie
2018-03-20 23:00 ` Bakul Shah
2018-03-21 13:48 ` Paul Winalski
2018-03-21 20:55 ` Ron Natalie
2018-03-18 21:26 ` [TUHS] RIP John Backus Tim Bradshaw
2018-03-19 0:26 ` Steve Johnson
2018-03-19 14:26 ` Warner Losh
[not found] <mailman.17.1521243734.3788.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2018-03-17 14:47 ` Paul McJones
2018-03-17 15:54 ` Dave Horsfall
[not found] <mailman.19.1521302091.3788.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2018-03-17 17:49 ` Paul McJones
2018-03-17 18:52 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-03-18 3:39 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-03-18 7:35 ` Otto Moerbeek
[not found] <mailman.21.1521314548.3788.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2018-03-17 20:01 ` Paul McJones
2018-03-17 20:14 ` Paul McJones
2018-03-17 22:27 ` Steve Johnson
2018-03-18 13:33 Noel Chiappa
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