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From: Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com>
To: Norman Wilson <norman@oclsc.org>
Cc: TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: crt0 -- what's in that name?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 21:48:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W6dxBJsABcf6V84FToMhBwwxLkSroyqV5ODpEaBGt_7sw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21D1C841C4310FE1829023B424252295.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org>

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On Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 9:37 PM Norman Wilson <norman@oclsc.org> wrote:

> Clem Cole:
>
> > Apologies to TUHS - other than please don't think Fortran did not
> > impact UNIX and its peers.
>
> Fortran had an important (if indirect) influence in early Unix.  From
> Dennis's memories of the early days of Unix on the PDP-7:
>
>   Soon after TMG became available, Thompson decided that we could not
>   pretend to offer a real computing service without Fortran, so he sat
>   down to write a Fortran in TMG.  As I recall, the intent to handle
>   Fortran lasted about a week.  What he produced instead was a definition
>   of and a compiler for the new language B.
>
> (The Evolution of the Unix Time-Sharing System; see the 1984
> UNIX System issue of the BLTJ for the whole thing, or just read
> https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/hist.html)
>
> Now let's move on to the name `rc'.  Not the shell, but the
> usage as part of a file name.  Those two characters appear
> at the end of the many annoying, and mostly pointless, configuration
> files that litter one's home directory these days, apparently
> copied from the old system-startup script /etc/rc as if the
> name means `startup commands' (or something beginning with r,
> I suppose, instead of startup).  But I recall reading somewhere
> that it just stood for `runcom,' a Multics-derived term for what
> we now call a shell script.
>
> I can't find a citation to back up that claim, though.  Anyone
> else remember where to look?
>

Not a citation, either, but I believe the original RUNCOM came from CTSS (
https://multicians.org/shell.html), and MDN-4 on the design of the Multics
shell mentions the term and MDN-5 goes into detail here.

Newer Multics calls this "exec_com", as in the shell startup file `
start_up.ec` that Multics users have in their login directories.
https://web.mit.edu/multics-history/source/Multics/doc/info_segments/exec_com.info

        - Dan C.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-13  1:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-13  1:37 Norman Wilson
2023-06-13  1:41 ` Rob Pike
2023-06-13  1:48 ` Dan Cross [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-06-13 12:10 Douglas McIlroy
2023-06-13 10:03 Rudi Blom
2023-06-13  0:46 Douglas McIlroy
2023-06-12 18:22 [TUHS] " ron minnich
2023-06-12 18:29 ` [TUHS] " Dan Cross
2023-06-12 18:53   ` Clem Cole
2023-06-12 19:45     ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-06-12 20:03       ` Chris Pinnock via TUHS
2023-06-12 20:22         ` Dan Cross
2023-06-12 20:28           ` Chris Pinnock via TUHS
2023-06-12 20:58             ` Paul Winalski
2023-06-12 21:32               ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-06-12 21:28             ` Anthony Martin
2023-06-12 20:25         ` Steve Nickolas
2023-06-12 20:17   ` Dave Horsfall
2023-06-12 21:31     ` Clem Cole
2023-06-12 21:39       ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-06-12 22:39         ` Clem Cole
2023-06-12 22:50           ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-06-12 23:04           ` Paul Winalski
2023-06-12 22:09       ` Paul Winalski
2023-06-13  5:28       ` Dave Horsfall
2023-06-13 16:37         ` ron minnich

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