From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2638 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2021 18:25:58 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 24 Jan 2021 18:25:58 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id ADCA09C7AF; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 04:25:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B369C73E; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 04:25:28 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="COaMTB5/"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 700B89C73E; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 04:25:25 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oi1-f182.google.com (mail-oi1-f182.google.com [209.85.167.182]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8D009C73D for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 04:25:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oi1-f182.google.com with SMTP id m13so4393183oig.8 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 10:25:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ZmaednojABt9LFP7tJXsKUft5MW12sTQH29RdLCaTwk=; b=COaMTB5/agodPJlyEn4mBYi92Dqf9PgCxMILGaxM3vEwJpZ3XhujnlQdKwiAUtsGQu roOhFZ4pVMOCCT14Hglm9RSFMdCAORv5GxPRyG+4lFvOOs7LzIIsfFA2K1OPQUiwcrrB QgeBm7FeKLxh/8KXZT0I0FvoAwvyo2NDxXRvqyzzajo+LjRI9kmkoxGd0DLlzc5Ylrw+ 2RLlvVbujRT93djUlB0XdE/b/eMEo3iH6iN3LU+xUejX5Q+aPK5mSeimLAj1+L3Fl2/x oc37sw+wfMVk3p8AjP3TSQZzfXLgohBzAULsslydZVOyRWyD41oaawctzVaQliRtXtN8 wH+w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ZmaednojABt9LFP7tJXsKUft5MW12sTQH29RdLCaTwk=; b=uKTyZlZT3XCMRKPd/SalkEeSZ5TxJx9mAegBJJiuYERhvDfxXy31IcIaVPt49utvGe nTbMT+VCZZ5/CSkyg81JsgcUNkcPfXoSnSP6x4OggxRCoNoRYx+VTBMzbXG2jcd8y4WX XL9G0q76U7NCdr0f7L/Lj8atDzRO0Q0IL5Vr0JTfTO9xg0WAwL9Sm72xtlR0E9+qt/rt /y3HfdI8aTey/YEnRt6t1DOc4zMZYAYD6+oie12JatmMBDQXJvZXi6NSxbV0eFD1z0d2 NKXgSjnRMg6Ox+b7tHRR3s7DXx5KGrf6Vhq1cso4Y0XeoM1kQEECc0qdjH1UUwoan8St 6ieA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53237SYaZItoaIRb2dBNX+oZYcdff2uMQhqEavTz0LFw9gFr1V3s qBuwOKbAURf1TsoO8m8k/ezb/bl4HQiDqWwirL2QKmiqVRY9PA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxVlOoCK02iGX86vEfElMVrEOIiL+X871L//aSEnYKtNKS5nb1sJCJK2QMDO5DiWAFoNj16wW1Xh7pGAPIJ7i8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:3c3:: with SMTP id o3mr9182023oie.24.1611512724170; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 10:25:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dan Cross Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 13:24:48 -0500 Message-ID: To: ron minnich Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000079aac105b9a98b97" Subject: Re: [TUHS] tangential unix question: whatever happened to NeWS? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000079aac105b9a98b97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:16 AM ron minnich wrote: > At some point I thought NeWS source was released. Is it just another > Lost Source or it is out there somewhere? > I think they open sourced the OpenLook toolkit at some point, though I don't recall seeing the source code for the NeWS server itself. If I'm misremembering and Sun didn't open the OLTK, then maybe there was an open source clone. I am sure there was an alternate window manager that had virtual desktops. Starting with, I believe, NeWS 3.0 and later they provided X11 integration. X had clearly won in the larger world. For that matter, so had Motif, but you had to pay money for it. Do I remember right that it was a Gosling effort? > Yes, he was the driving force behind NeWS. Display PostScript! A cool concept. - Dan C. --00000000000079aac105b9a98b97 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:16 AM ron minn= ich <rminnich@gmail.com> wr= ote:
At some point I thought NeWS source was released. Is it jus= t another
Lost Source or it is out there somewhere?

I think they open sourced the OpenLook toolkit at some point, though I d= on't recall seeing the source code for the NeWS server itself. If I'= ;m misremembering and Sun didn't open the OLTK, then maybe there was an= open source clone. I am sure there was an alternate window manager that ha= d virtual desktops.

Starting with, I believe, NeWS= 3.0 and later they provided X11 integration. X had clearly won in the larg= er world. For that matter, so had Motif, but you had to pay money for it.

Do I remember right that it was a Gosling effort?

=
Yes, he was the driving force behind NeWS. Display PostScript! A= cool concept.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Dan C= .

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