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From: Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com>
To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@lemis.com>
Cc: Alan Coopersmith <alan.coopersmith@oracle.com>,
	Marc Rochkind <mrochkind@gmail.com>,
	tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Origin of the name POSIX (was: ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) Standards Body Selection)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:58:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W6mwaAm4KWEtaOSqP6TMC+4JptpHNc1RWD+Ypge4G_xZA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zny8JBC8bash5COU@hydra.lemis.com>

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 9:47 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@lemis.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 at 20:44:12 -0400, Clem Cole wrote:
> > rms had nothing to do with the name posix.  I have no idea where that
> > comment came from.
>
> At the very least, from rms himself:
> https://stallman.org/articles/posix.html
> There's a reference to this page in the Wikipedia page on POSIX.
>
> > The p1003 committee for Ieee was the portable operating system standard and
> > at the time adding ix was the norm.  POSIX became the term we all used to
> > refer to the work we doing.  Rms was not involved in any way
>
> rms suggests that he was involved in the committee?  Not true?  Maybe
> a different, related committee?

A way to verify this would be to look for attendee lists from early
POSIX meetings, though I'm having trouble locating them. My initial
search turned up this document, a 1995 retrospective from Hal
Jespersen, where he credits Stallman for coining the name "POSIX":
https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/210308.210313.

Still, that's not a primary source, and it's mentioned only in
passing. I trust Clem's recollection more.

Incidentally, and relevant to an earlier question, "why go through
IEEE for the standard?" that's addressed in Jespersen's reminiscence.

        - Dan C.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-27 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-26 17:56 [TUHS] ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) Standards Body Selection segaloco via TUHS
2024-06-26 18:32 ` [TUHS] " Ori Idan
2024-06-26 18:42   ` Marc Rochkind
2024-06-26 20:07   ` Aron Insinga
2024-06-26 23:28   ` Peter Yardley
2024-06-26 18:35 ` Marc Rochkind
2024-06-26 18:43   ` James Johnston
2024-06-26 18:52     ` segaloco via TUHS
2024-06-26 19:34       ` Heinz Lycklama
2024-06-26 20:01         ` Charles H Sauer (he/him)
2024-06-27  2:36           ` [TUHS] Re: arithmetic, " John Levine
2024-06-27  3:41             ` Charles H. Sauer
2024-06-26 20:29         ` [TUHS] " Marc Rochkind
2024-06-26 21:17           ` Rich Salz
2024-06-26 21:20           ` Alan Coopersmith via TUHS
2024-06-26 21:28             ` Warner Losh
2024-06-26 21:49               ` Rich Salz
2024-06-26 21:53               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2024-06-27  0:44                 ` Clem Cole
2024-06-27  1:11                   ` [TUHS] Origin of the name POSIX (was: ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) Standards Body Selection) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2024-06-27  2:12                     ` [TUHS] " Ron Natalie
2024-06-27  2:37                       ` Warner Losh
2024-06-27 14:19                       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
     [not found]                     ` <CAC20D2M+75ohjTPcTBmBkejeaWjQQjWCkf=4ZYrP4Bk0MCamKA@mail.gmail.com>
2024-06-27  3:02                       ` Clem Cole
2024-06-27  3:03                         ` Clem Cole
2024-06-27  3:08                         ` Clem Cole
2024-06-27  8:20                     ` Eric E. Bowles via TUHS
2024-06-27 11:56                       ` John S Quarterman
     [not found]                         ` <CAEoi9W4ZSVCVsJJ8pdBuBobeeXOkwsey0kM6DWBnPiuSd_7TQA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                           ` <CANCZdfoghuf4n=HDgRJXDJ5VqZ=rCtmq_0WadaR6kj8QmcoVQQ@mail.gmail.com>
2024-06-27 13:42                             ` John S Quarterman
2024-06-27 11:58                     ` Dan Cross [this message]
2024-06-27 14:34                       ` Clem Cole
2024-06-27 15:05                         ` [TUHS] Re: Origin of the name POSIX Heinz Lycklama
2024-06-27 13:57                   ` [TUHS] Re: ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) Standards Body Selection Steffen Nurpmeso
2024-06-27 14:22                   ` Chet Ramey via TUHS
2024-06-27 14:29                     ` Andy Kosela
2024-06-27 14:59                       ` Clem Cole
2024-06-27  4:12             ` Wesley Parish
2024-06-27  4:52             ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-06-26 19:47     ` Aron Insinga
2024-06-27  5:02       ` Nevin Liber
2024-06-26 20:36   ` Stuff Received
2024-06-26 22:33     ` James Johnston
2024-06-26 20:32 ` Clem Cole
2024-06-26 22:04   ` Heinz Lycklama

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