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From: crossd@gmail.com (Dan Cross)
Subject: [TUHS] Re {TUHS} Synchronous vs Asynchronous IO in Unix
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 13:08:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W6uwRjs7DFS7+07c8HuKzn2isLHMKYxT_PA8kv8X-oYSw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201509211402.t8LE2E4K016401@coolidge.cs.Dartmouth.EDU>

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Doug McIlroy <doug at cs.dartmouth.edu>
wrote:

> Unix was what the authors wanted for a productive computing environment,
> not a bag of everything they thought somebody somewhere might want.
> One objective, perhaps subliminal originally, was to make program
> behavior easy to reason about. Thus pipes were accepted into research
> Unix, but more general (and unruly) IPC mechanisms such as messages
> and events never were.
>
> The infrastructure had to be asynchronous. The whole point was to
> surmount that difficult model and keep everyday programming simple.
> User visibility of asynchrony was held to a minimum: fork(), signal(),
> wait(). Signal() was there first and foremost to support SIGKILL; it
> did not purport to provide a sound basis for asynchronous IPC.
> The complexity of sigaction() is evidence that asynchrony remains
> untamed 40 years on.


Point of order: Does it really say this, or rather does it say that trying
to retrofit it into the Unix model, which was not designed with the sort of
thing in mind, has proven to be difficult?

        - Dan C.
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Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-21 14:02 Doug McIlroy
2015-09-25 17:08 ` Dan Cross [this message]
2015-09-25 22:05 ` Dave Horsfall
2015-09-25 23:16   ` Clem Cole
2015-09-25 23:23     ` Larry McVoy
2015-09-26 12:09       ` Dave Horsfall
2015-09-26 16:39         ` John Cowan
2015-09-27  7:19       ` Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan

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