From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE88426167 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 20:18:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895E74284F; Tue, 25 Jun 2024 04:17:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-x231.google.com (mail-lj1-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::231]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB4DC42848 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2024 04:17:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-x231.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2eaae2a6dc1so75954031fa.0 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 11:17:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1719253066; x=1719857866; darn=tuhs.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=N8UTiNhxUMrU5oa7QMgavjsWoqTH/y2NlcENdL3K7L0=; b=BEIjJ5DtcGV2Ac9j/4dXhcW4ZYhRREpXiY3DS03h2/wSUao57upq4kum984K6fKpEg lXnrorz/GYDBpxEFBlvFXCasOoHtU/7D6M1Ohek1daE8+9raGfCbuQeaQKcXq7mS4fpM FLCUmdAv9KXe/QXRKpjG0EYbsHO4sJMSKAdtnfjDaecnfA8307fRBRb2H64EZ+wqe05k xHRaqHhkSlBkRe0GqltaXeW8gwrJckxA8DvrPEyX5yVlZdI1proJuCKcwfksMFT9gmpU yPMLOohGwe+ebhY9vCKdk1Vyfz4AEIb+niYRXHmPB4tFtnXWMyxAXw1ZGXm9GeQxxeUx PLOQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1719253066; x=1719857866; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=N8UTiNhxUMrU5oa7QMgavjsWoqTH/y2NlcENdL3K7L0=; b=oOpdSzIJJuY9ihIyAe4sKATihIB/DXzclalJ5MCtX9wSfE/lZ0aLPcsu/PqRMqYdyz K6vNkU5vQsNOD2gJgKziEU69ofsKNkZIAibcd1HQk38p5YIuHamjZS+4f2jx5f9gxVDN vU1JZg5ZgFbzAxJkF9SY/W8qHM/0jJFNrS1hJhkyg/6PIj0hlr+2eb0YY3s+4rUkchZY bpY5vme1yE1wjgRLGk89PijrXjQZuJhTyCjDY2IQisdEsFRcv4AmnNd80jWvvZQBn8T2 yqq6K7n8P63vdWUNvIyWlz3WQ9xUrINKPOfrgbgm1aJLHo9KNXkDZlexUhUg1fzyKiiE rpvg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwerR5zxe0aMgptxcdL81xD6I4neVUNnBmASPvoqYdQDb8kyZPV ZE+xijniz/YrlffAhSgjGnIIptshQWCORbjIeUPh5fqw1mAP3+MriJDyXjcVf1/c+w9zu372AtN wtLglwwgx6OM+gMDG0GjUzrJGMAsmvfVe X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFnjSheQ/v2qTp3zcQOSApZhi7Y1+KqSCf2hKYtXCaBWBoVtDIsO2UDG5d90fOYwoFblw/PA/4Iclj+MDiG7rQ= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9057:0:b0:2ec:18bc:c455 with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2ec5b2c4dbdmr42204491fa.10.1719253065547; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 11:17:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7wfrt2cr74.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> In-Reply-To: <7wfrt2cr74.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> From: Dan Cross Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 14:17:08 -0400 Message-ID: To: Lars Brinkhoff Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: 4WTJWNUUQ67X53S3NA5VG5IM2CM3DCSD X-Message-ID-Hash: 4WTJWNUUQ67X53S3NA5VG5IM2CM3DCSD X-MailFrom: crossd@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: TUHS X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Fwd: [multicians] Dennis Ritchie's 1993 Usenet posting "BTL Leaves Multics" List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 11:10=E2=80=AFAM Lars Brinkhoff w= rote: > Dan Cross wrote: > > I can't resist asking about the nugget buried in here about Ken > > writing a small kernel for the 645. Is that in the archives anywhere? > > As far as I understand, the code that is available is for the DPS-8M. > I have asked around for older code. I don't remember exactly, but > possibly 6180 era code might be around, but but unfortunately not 645. This is, as I understand it, true for Multics. But I think that Dennis was referring to something that wasn't Multics, or only tangentially related, done by Ken; this would have definitely preceded the 6180 (Tom's link here: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.os.multics/c/1iHfrDJkyyE/m/Nhmar1sFRBgJ). To quote: > Ken even created a tiny kernel of a system for the 645, which actually pr= inted out an equivalent of `hello world.' This is the thing I'm curious about. - Dan C.