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From: Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com>
To: Ken Thompson <kenbob@gmail.com>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>,
	Douglas McIlroy <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] {TUHS] Interesting Commentary on Unix from Multicians
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:24:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W6zNPgjU4QxGkOKQh+Xsikc6bUCM-ZqHqRGxtb=arqdmg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMP=X_nsba2Py7u5Sz9mLcHwZOucYDp4ekinx+PJx4e7TqeCAA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 2:29 PM Ken Thompson <kenbob@gmail.com> wrote:

> vic was my department head upon my arrival at
> bell labs (june 1966). i went to my assigned office
> and found vic, in combat boots, in a lotus position
> on top of my filing cabinet. it is a vision that i will
> never forget. he had just come to introduce himself.
>

This is a great story, though I confess that the thought of sitting like
that sounds rather uncomfortable.

I wonder if either or both of you, Ken, and Doug, could talk a little about
the Bell Labs withdrawal from Multics from your perspectives? What was that
like, and what was your relationship with the folks at MIT still at Project
MAC like afterwards? I gather it was friendly; was there any collaboration
there beyond casual correspondence?

        - Dan C.


On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 4:48 AM Douglas McIlroy <
> douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
>> > Single Level Storage is an awesome concept and removes so many ugly
>> > hacks from algorithms that otherwise have to process data in files.
>>
>> This was Vic Vyssotsky's signature contribution to Multics, though in
>> typical
>> Vyssotsky fashion he never sought personal credit for it. Other awesome
>> Vyssotsky inventions:
>>
>> BLODI (block diagram), the first data-flow language, for sample-data
>> systems.
>>
>> Parallel flow analysis (later reinvented and published  by John Cocke).
>> Vic
>> installed this in Fortran to produce diagnostics such as, "If the
>> third branch of IF
>> statement 15 is ever taken, then variable E will be used before being
>> set".
>>
>> Darwin, the original game of predation and self-reproduction among
>> programs.
>> Corewars.org keeps a descendant version going 60 years later.
>>
>> A minimum-spanning-tree algorithm quite different from the well-known
>> methods
>> due to his colleagues Bob Prim and Joe Kruskal, again unpublished.
>>
>> Not long ago on TUHS, Andrew Hume told how Vic found the same isolated
>> bug in
>> dc by mathematically generating hard cases that Andrew stumbled on by
>> accident,
>>
>> As you may infer, Vic is one of my personal computing heroes.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-11 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-09 11:45 Douglas McIlroy
2022-04-09 13:09 ` Larry Stewart
2022-04-09 18:25 ` Ken Thompson
2022-04-11 19:24   ` Dan Cross [this message]
2022-04-28 21:05 ` Alan Glasser
2022-04-30 10:45   ` [TUHS] Aleph Null in Software Practice & Experience Ralph Corderoy
2022-04-30 15:42     ` John Cowan
2022-04-30 12:52       ` Ralph Corderoy
2022-04-30 13:33         ` Rob Pike
2022-05-02  9:55           ` Ralph Corderoy
2022-05-02 10:03             ` Rob Pike
2022-05-11 12:47 ` [TUHS] {TUHS] Interesting Commentary on Unix from Multicians Joe

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