From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10740 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2022 23:19:30 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 28 Jan 2022 23:19:30 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 031BB9B92F; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 09:19:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A899510A; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 09:19:14 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="HGAJ/5Fh"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4E07B9510A; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 09:19:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-f41.google.com (mail-ot1-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2112795109 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 09:19:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-f41.google.com with SMTP id g15-20020a9d6b0f000000b005a062b0dc12so7205348otp.4 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2022 15:19:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=cnIVI4ph+npS5ELlnBG3jNx5dlNeD0CMXk1ccWOo1T4=; b=HGAJ/5FhvWespDvN8uNEzqH5fVwCKpgfR4b5j6BesKgpavKlOrITMbyGpoaSsdFu4w st914nycIr1zcY/nrDT5Jbte2O0NdY/IoJ5hln/dvUaLEFX36lWfHS1RTSecLefiouBe 3jbnwPmi+LoJkwoWSxR51R2emH7Sdt+H3oS2yUrkpVB60ASiQNAxzyFBMqFhGUTgPix1 qTSFG0ZqZkmwzTG87ZJa8KdtxHxYMo2beCijrAHSEopnktVGl0AN52TYZuKGUAgCGkqF p9VYfoJ1cx2nCwCu7XNeJgSALUDkuG0j4clmPsLgMbQyRdCEB7Toa6WlMcR5KPs1bl9H DkWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=cnIVI4ph+npS5ELlnBG3jNx5dlNeD0CMXk1ccWOo1T4=; b=Jbo5WPEJH6Z3QxODvmCWxhfcIcxxoaeHXtUWmaUgHiDiYffL6yp/X3nsNNMFZE8Wt+ WfGFvdRBz+pL7kOozI7Jq5cdiWUF8HJw9Tp1L5gOkYhHfjx87DWaaf+B+Z6lit492CgL 0UKip0ngoMY30H2MpOAABVrDVeVYmUa07kDPHDelVDuLywedD6OidaILPQKxVR96sYLn YSVAq+uGvnClelCkCpsK7SZVPTMm/eEyXpoEq3rTY5iGjA2ICkycA4nzcGVmBJl1YvVX MKzSVReYgtWLuOHj8WeMwgm6uZ1wvdeVq+unCOivQcIvzc2kdKn5LC2c/FKnY0/kq1hp w8lw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533nQMaFEG83wiDDp7oYi+bl/a+eH85o5dTgh8f4EviekHfwXZWh SbpJmpJmUIDrrWmoPzzk+UqJtLULnC/5qr0PVdQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwll7JHQ68uQMMt41PvxRpbIhT9HCkTw1WWeMMci0BlAizDQT8LDagBDDYFWIsGP+Ev4iaIl37TauOGaY9cxVg= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1146:: with SMTP id x6mr6018597otq.375.1643411951055; Fri, 28 Jan 2022 15:19:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0f83f174-eeca-30fb-7b98-77fb0da80f2e@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0f83f174-eeca-30fb-7b98-77fb0da80f2e@gmail.com> From: Dan Cross Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 18:18:34 -0500 Message-ID: To: Will Senn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000090247005d6aca95f" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Looking back to 1981 - what pascal was popular on what unix? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000090247005d6aca95f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 6:09 PM Will Senn wrote: > I'm reading in, Kernighan & Plauger's 1981 edition of Software Tools in > Pascal and in the book, the author's mention Bill Joy's Pascal and Andy > Tanenbaum's as being rock solid. So, a few related questions: > > 1. What edition of UNIX were they likely to be using? > I'm afraid I can't speak to your 2nd and 3rd questions, but I can offer what I think is a reasonable guess about the first. One of the neat things about Unix and Unix-adjacent books of that era is that very often the copyright page held some information about the production of the book itself. I just so happened to have a copy of, "Software Tools in Pascal" sitting on my desk, and it says, "This books as set in Times Roman and Courier by the authors, using a Mergenthaler Linotron 202 phototypesetter driven by a PDP-11/70 running the Unix operating system." Given the PDP-11 and the date (1981) one may reasonably conclude that it was running 7th Edition. I imagine the pascal was Joy's, from Berkeley. - Dan C. --00000000000090247005d6aca95f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 6:09 PM Will Senn= <will.senn@gmail.com> wro= te:
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I'm reading in, Kernigh= an & Plauger's 1981 edition of Software Tools in Pascal and in the book, the author's mention Bill Joy's Pascal and Andy Tanenbaum's as being rock solid. So, a few related questions:

1. What edition of UNIX were they likely to be using?

I'm afraid I can't speak to your = 2nd and 3rd questions,=C2=A0but I can offer what I=C2=A0think is a reasonab= le guess about the first.

One of the neat things a= bout Unix and Unix-adjacent books of that era is that very often the copyri= ght page held some information about the production of the book itself. I j= ust so happened to have a copy of, "Software Tools in Pascal" sit= ting on my desk, and it says, "This books=C2=A0as set in Times Roman a= nd Courier by the authors, using a Mergenthaler Linotron 202 phototypesette= r driven by a PDP-11/70 running the Unix operating system."
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Given the PDP-11 and the date (1981) one may reasonably conc= lude that it was running 7th Edition. I imagine the pascal was Joy's, f= rom Berkeley.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Dan C.=

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