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From: crossd@gmail.com (Dan Cross)
Subject: [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years?
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 09:54:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W7PZq0TBWxgr1Lk8LCLuBqPRvVdUq8S17EKie7QuTkMhA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D7FABA1E-4897-42F3-A5BD-4D82D6770558@ronnatalie.com>

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On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Ronald Natalie <ron at ronnatalie.com> wrote:

>
> > On Feb 28, 2017, at 10:15 PM, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello!
> > We (well most of us) all of us know about AIX. Well what about AIX/370?
> > ——
>
> AIX/370 was a real product.     One of the ones that I don’t ever think
> saw the light of day was the i860 AIX port.   IBM made two i860 add-in
> cards for the PS/2.   The single processor version was called the Wizard
> and there was a 4 processor version with an integral frame buffer called
> the W4.     We ported AIX to both.    The i860 version actually had more in
> common with the 370 version than it did with the 386.     All of these AIX
> versions came from the same source code and used the IBM TCF to allow you
> to transparently run executables across nodes in the cluster.     The only
> AIX that didn’t play was the completely independent (and in my opinion
> somewhat brain damaged) IBM/RT UNIX.


We had RTs where I was. By the time I came on the scene, they were being
decommissioned in favor of RS/6k hardware (arguably, the RT was pretty
low-powered even for its day), so the students were running around grabbing
them and playing with them. We ran AOS on ours, which was a more-or-less
straight port of 4.3BSD+NFS (maybe they started with Tahoe? I don't know),
but IBM seemed to want to push AIX with them. The RT was my first exposure
to "real" Unix source code.

What was interesting to me was all of the #ifdef's in the source that made
it clear that someone at IBM had obviously tried to port 4.3 to the 370. I
don't think that ever saw the light of day, but there were definitely
vestiges of it in the kernel.

I had understood was that AIX/370 was actually OSF/1 based and totally
separate from AIX 2.x (on the RT) and AIX 3.x (on the RS/6k)? From what you
wrote, it sounds like that wasn't quite right.

If there was a TCF-based RT kernel, I never saw it, even inside the IBM
> labs.
>
> Speaking of odd job control mechanisms.   The 386 side had a device that
> multiplexed the PS/2 console into multiple streams called the “High
> Function Terminal.”   When we wrote the virtual console for the Wizard/W4
> add in card, we called it the “Low Function Terminal."


Did the HFT survive into the RS/6k? I seem to recall hearing about that.
Perhaps it was an option on the RT, or somehow could be used with the
"crossbow" card on the 6152?

        - Dan C.
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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-25 14:17 Arno Griffioen
2017-02-25 14:32 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-25 16:35   ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-25 18:11     ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-25 18:16       ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 17:31   ` Clem Cole
2017-02-25 17:34     ` Charles Anthony
2017-02-25 17:36     ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 18:28     ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-27  5:08       ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-25 17:40   ` Nemo
2017-02-25 17:43     ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 23:23   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-26 12:39     ` Noel Chiappa
2017-02-26 12:46       ` [TUHS] The size of EMACS, and what hides in kLOCs Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 16:05         ` Nemo
2017-02-26 17:05           ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 18:23             ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 19:19               ` Jim Carpenter
2017-02-26 19:39                 ` [TUHS] EMACS movemail suid root bug Michael Kjörling
     [not found]           ` <CALMnNGg3dRV0yPV1GgeqaOFG0Mb5PSNuqgPs8pLKOHYzurYEOg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-02-27  1:00             ` [TUHS] The size of EMACS, and what hides in kLOCs Nemo
2017-02-27  1:48               ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-27  8:26                 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-27  1:19           ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-27  2:13             ` Nick Downing
2017-02-26 13:32       ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 14:19         ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 14:54           ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 15:25             ` Angelo Papenhoff
2017-02-26 15:55               ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 15:37             ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 15:52               ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 16:06                 ` tfb
2017-02-26 16:27                   ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 18:32                     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-27 16:04                       ` Tony Finch
2017-02-27 23:51                         ` Nick Downing
2017-02-26 16:22                 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 16:36                   ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 18:01                     ` William Pechter
2017-02-26 18:40               ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-26 16:06           ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 16:30             ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:15           ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:20             ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 17:23               ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:33               ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-26 17:39                 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 17:39                 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 19:33                   ` [TUHS] roff Larry McVoy
2017-02-26 19:34                     ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 19:36                       ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 19:46                         ` Dan Cross
2017-02-26 19:41                     ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 21:27                       ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 21:28                         ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-27 13:59                         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-02-28 20:15       ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Dave Horsfall
2017-02-28 20:22         ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-03-01  1:31           ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-28 20:40         ` Jaap Akkerhuis
2017-03-01 12:45           ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-25 14:44 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during theyears? jsteve
2017-02-25 19:02 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Al Kossow
2017-02-26  4:06   ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-01  4:15 ` Gregg Levine
2017-03-01  7:17   ` arnold
2017-03-01  7:45   ` Ronald Natalie
2017-03-01 11:14     ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports duringthe years? jsteve
2017-03-01 14:54     ` Dan Cross [this message]
2017-03-01 15:41     ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Nemo
2017-03-01 18:17     ` Clem Cole
2017-03-02  2:13       ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-02  2:27       ` Gregg Levine

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