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From: Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: forgotten versions
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 14:38:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W7QQEQyhBFv-uf2v2AMBX3cL4tjcqAvvY+pK8gHSz+qqA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yq9rzRUNIFmsnsFT@mit.edu>

On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 2:33 PM Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 10:47:23AM -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote:
> > Just chiming in a bit..
> >
> > Rob, it might be interesting to old geezers like me as well as newbies
> > entering the field to get a perspective on Plan 9 and its evolution. The
> > motivations behind it. What your group was trying to accomplish,  the
> > approach, pitfalls and the entire decision making process as things went
> > along. Even things that went horribly wrong and what happened etc.
>
> I'll second that.  I think it would be really helpful.
>
> There was a time when I was reviewing a paper which made a bunch of
> claims about what Plan 9 was trying to accomplish and in particular
> about what the ultimate design goals for a particular component of
> Plan 9.  (I won't go into further details since as far as I know, that
> paper was never published.)
>
> In any case, since I wasn't familiar with the history of Plan 9 to
> evaluate these claims, with the permission of the PC chairs, I found
> someone who had been part of the Plan 9 team, and asked them to review
> certain passages for accuracy, and they said, "Uh, no.... that's
> totally not the case.  They're completely wrong."
>
> So if someone were willing to create additional write ups about
> lessons learned, or if that's too much work, maybe someone could do
> some interview for a podcast or a vlog, that would be really
> excellent.

Agreed. A retrospective would be a very welcome addition to the canon.

        - Dan C.

(PS: I _had_ heard of the VAX effort before, but I don't think I'd known
quite how nascent it was before it was abandoned in favor of MIPS and
68k.)

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-19 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-16 23:06 [TUHS] " Rob Pike
2022-06-16 23:17 ` [TUHS] " Earl Baugh
2022-06-16 23:18 ` George Michaelson
2022-06-16 23:44   ` George Michaelson
2022-06-17  0:10     ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-17 16:23     ` [TUHS] Sockets vs Streams (was " Bakul Shah
2022-06-17 17:43       ` [TUHS] " Paul Winalski
2022-06-17 22:52       ` Dan Stromberg
2022-06-17  7:20 ` [TUHS] " Diomidis Spinellis
2022-06-17  7:33   ` Rob Pike
2022-06-17  8:34   ` arnold
2022-06-17 10:52 ` arnold
2022-06-18  7:05 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19  7:50   ` Rob Pike
2022-06-19  8:17     ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19  8:53       ` Rob Pike
2022-06-19  9:02         ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19  9:14           ` arnold
2022-06-19  9:19             ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19  9:23               ` arnold
2022-06-19 11:37                 ` Matthias Bruestle
2022-06-19 14:47         ` Kenneth Goodwin
2022-06-19 16:27           ` Al Kossow
2022-06-19 18:32           ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-06-19 18:38             ` Dan Cross [this message]
2022-06-21 23:56               ` Jacob Moody
2022-06-22  0:13                 ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-22  0:48                   ` Rob Pike
2022-06-22  1:55                     ` George Michaelson
2022-06-22  2:10                       ` Bakul Shah
2022-06-22  2:14                       ` Jon Steinhart
2022-06-22  2:19                         ` Andrew Hume
2022-06-22  2:58                           ` Rob Pike
2022-06-22  3:09                             ` George Michaelson
2022-06-22  2:16                   ` Andrew Hume
2022-06-22  2:55                   ` Brad Spencer
2022-06-17 14:50 Paul Ruizendaal
2022-06-18  0:35 Douglas McIlroy
2022-06-18  5:00 ` Kevin Bowling
2022-06-18  5:13   ` Adam Thornton
2022-06-18 16:58     ` Clem Cole
2022-06-18 17:18       ` Warner Losh
2022-06-18 17:57         ` Clem Cole
2022-06-18 19:55 Paul Ruizendaal
2022-06-22 12:06 Noel Chiappa
2022-06-23  0:02 ` Dan Cross
2022-06-23  2:18 Noel Chiappa
2022-06-24  6:47 Paul Ruizendaal
2022-06-25 19:16 ` Anthony Martin
2022-06-25 20:45   ` Paul Ruizendaal
2022-06-27  0:57     ` Kevin Bowling

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