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From: crossd@gmail.com (Dan Cross)
Subject: [TUHS] attachments: MIME and uuencode
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 20:14:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W7Q_oT8D_o=jrOvB+F-WyaaOk_dQ4ptZ2fFAPFX87K3Hw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e94cef30-f511-c7a1-cca8-e77f614e2f8a@mhorton.net>

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Mary Ann Horton <mah at mhorton.net> wrote:

> Possible?  Yes.  Convenient?  No.
>
> You could cat several uuencode files together and send them in one email.
> You'd have to edit them on the receiving end into separate files and
> uudecode them separately.  In practice, you'd uuencode a tarball.
>
> MIME was a major advance, and what's telling is that 25 years later,
> SMTP/MIME is still the standard.
>

This is so interesting. Not to be argumentative about it but I felt it was
actually something of a regression. Something like making a file available
via an FTP server (possible in an executable but unreadable directory with
an obscure name) or just in some directory in an organization where a
filesystem was shared and sending a pointer to the file via email seemed
much more efficient, particularly if one was sending to multiple
recipients. Attaching files to email as MIME components felt like trying to
turn email into a filesystem, and SMTP into a file transfer protocol. The
way I saw it, email was email and we already had file transfer protocols....

It seemed like MIME really took off when Microsoft embraced it; before
that, plain ol' text seemed much more common. My sense at the time was that
networked filesystems and services like FTP (or the then-nascent HTTP) were
far less commonplace on the MS platform, so email as a content distribution
mechanism was more natural in that world. I was somewhat dismayed at the
inability to make Windows users see the light; in retrospect, of course,
this just means that I myself was missing something critical.

Mary Ann, why did you consider it such a step forward? I'm really curious
about the reasoning from folks involved with such things at the time.

        - Dan C.
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-11 19:07 Mary Ann Horton
2017-03-11 23:01 ` Paul Winalski
2017-03-11 23:05   ` Mary Ann Horton
2017-03-12  1:14     ` Dan Cross [this message]
2017-03-12  6:28       ` jsteve
2017-03-12 23:41         ` Gregg Levine
2017-03-13  0:00           ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-13  1:59             ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-12 23:43       ` Mary Ann Horton
2017-03-12 21:10   ` Dave Horsfall
     [not found]     ` <12de3888-3a82-4a8c-9177-50e6cb4cb931.maildroid@localhost>
2017-03-19  2:34       ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-12 13:53 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-03-12 17:42 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-12 23:35   ` Mary Ann Horton
2017-03-13  0:07     ` Clem Cole
2017-03-13  0:09     ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-13  0:11       ` Clem Cole
2017-03-12 15:10 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-12 18:13 Doug McIlroy
2017-03-12 18:22 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-12 18:26 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-13  0:34   ` Dan Cross
2017-03-13  1:28     ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-13  5:39       ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-13 11:37   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-13 20:21     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-13 22:14       ` Doug McIlroy
2017-03-14 10:49         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-12 18:33 ` Paul Winalski
2017-03-13  5:58   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-12 18:57 Andy Valencia
2017-03-12 20:04 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-12 21:34 ` Random832
2017-03-12 22:12   ` Noel Chiappa
2017-03-13 14:58     ` Michael Kjörling
2017-03-13 21:56       ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-14 10:33         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-16 18:52         ` Michael Kjörling

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