From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2904 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2023 15:25:30 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Aug 2023 15:25:30 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CAF440FDA; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 01:25:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pl1-x62f.google.com (mail-pl1-x62f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::62f]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEE7D40FD6 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 01:25:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pl1-x62f.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1bc83a96067so18946845ad.0 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 08:25:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1691853915; x=1692458715; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=CRjBEc85EvSOhMBu6CoqQizR9yMhgxim9AHyUgrKu3A=; b=sdIQEHaQ3LzqbDAjM1B8cGB0Wun0IApyj6iqq2Z5y4IVJY1GfvwLsAwzPOMihLK7lI jYXBFLgcafGOwQYkdatCmyOeAMuX6S06tumuxf6frSJURTFCMoTNg8ZzwFWceFHK1EZ9 GHwt22/RUktboMZ2gxzIpmPDo7tPqQfKxcvQ44NelRM4SwLrriymPFZF+zwj+SkfL+fK D26/RiMEr8q6mDUE+8M5sG1gXpfU7kIe/BvpB+mJF50MVVXA7XtnEeMuKg2n02vBiRY0 JMTGD7rd+RfsCHEvOWp3Cvk017Mk8VbOVc5bfVOYC0HqYvFzTfaqkgiRCM/s6wg13nZd +mLg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1691853915; x=1692458715; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=CRjBEc85EvSOhMBu6CoqQizR9yMhgxim9AHyUgrKu3A=; b=iHaNICGOMDSehSr1Hsxn7slXSHcr5NTlyh8sJPW2Ct8lClsWgF85NnYKOXBxaPjFJL Vu0jXWWlourkW9XuddwYdSSPdm5jgfDTNFPX4ny96ML8PYsORNj0kqNh2lTSxJu/Y5yV DUKt6d7y5usWL2t3DhsSUBBm/7X1g2YOcRGbJfCH1DlIoQKcrfMAHaNp2BnfdCHKaNpA tZ1L+FbcukPdq6d6qczteVCSNQE/yrvvY0gGiVJ/DRjhI47hdpkUloraAn9kojg/7+a1 3QluLmqQ6Lu6syKuirqErUmwQ7uz3ux458M1NgzOja+V0ZprsKQvy+wNJIyNacsJmqPc pD/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyDGaFTgGeLKzdmU0p9NlpD8/s45vXQVUqcDNN7UbupEyI1V00W WfwPPbZ1GOJHQ4nN512JoZW7VQPga7DHXEeuxX0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGo4jaI4XiafyYBM/6IZXFR9gAb3rkZAx7re3lG/15za5ZlQIdm0XfR1EDW8wH+7XWGgTWNXbfbIq2LujgM+Qk= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:410b:b0:269:1abd:3ba6 with SMTP id u11-20020a17090a410b00b002691abd3ba6mr3199216pjf.28.1691853914994; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 08:25:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6EA66356-0C94-4802-81B6-1CF891EF6EC2@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: From: Dan Cross Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 11:24:36 -0400 Message-ID: To: Warner Losh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: FFFD2HALWLCOA5EBVX4ENEV3YPTCCBKP X-Message-ID-Hash: FFFD2HALWLCOA5EBVX4ENEV3YPTCCBKP X-MailFrom: crossd@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Paul Ruizendaal , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: when did v8 or later get networking? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 11:20=E2=80=AFAM Warner Losh wrote= : > On Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 4:29 AM Paul Ruizendaal wrote: >> > URP is smaller, but if I remember well it does not handle out-of-order= packets or packet duplicates (both of which do not occur in a (virtual) li= ne switched context). >> >> Upon reflection, duplicates of course can occur when an ACK is lost. > > What's URP? Sounds a little like UDP, is it a typo or something else? I thought that might be a typo for UDP, but that doesn't have ACKs.