From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15320 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2022 16:36:23 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Apr 2022 16:36:23 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 325BF9D029; Fri, 8 Apr 2022 02:36:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60B89CEAF; Fri, 8 Apr 2022 02:32:46 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="I9d/v/0u"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8DAD49CEAF; Fri, 8 Apr 2022 02:32:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-f51.google.com (mail-ot1-f51.google.com [209.85.210.51]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC0239CEA7 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2022 02:32:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-f51.google.com with SMTP id w17-20020a056830111100b005b22c584b93so4235554otq.11 for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2022 09:32:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=E9wXjCt5wM6tkfSBBIOtsW8KCvJXW53Tmz+QNZ8Xj2E=; b=I9d/v/0uGnoRSRIUE6x8+hfoDq5wrzIo2LJo/xdAmZYkEu9hESur3HpYk1933FoR+/ uwALHaTpjM7/CrFONc762fZvzBw6+A8rCU4sRB3K95ZiP7myklFHFpWSosGR9CNAoJJ0 rRzK1HLkNpV/OVRIbB4Ojzd+qM+2X18ag3T7MlbKIW1ql7dhmjJ3tSWAg2Iu4e6pgy8Z sor0iwQ+YBgWvnbt0pzQtyShwzyRX9BaG9v5T3iqeacc2P1Afyu+AuZ1bscK83UtBP5z lsSP2vmJKXVV8EfwGHKbB8gv+Kjf65CT4upA9YAN2MfiPZ4x+M36FO5//9e0kE6jhkmQ hwPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=E9wXjCt5wM6tkfSBBIOtsW8KCvJXW53Tmz+QNZ8Xj2E=; b=jvy6i7toYWEF/XDaKhsyexxkh6fJfG8O44nZuUs6TkM2tA97qrjgcLqiacm+rfZWgr GBNr92Js1IgDNug0SGi4E6H0sKOBrHt+YUokzg9qII4pc0uQC5J68cjLUxorFVnM4Weh Ei3eE7zzC3oT5sApEGKkKEkP7MhYHEOrscCT/qyFd/dZSFxUdXGIdezxPcCHD6Tg9dao +NDe9oti3DVPKOX/CrjwhJDjNG4qALSW/MwnYHBrf7zEXfcSX8jY7TwAMK1kM/dl55N7 99NxNWCJ0DgmmM39jzUw6+npsZvfVZbSVWUc7hjtvyPtszCJkShToYz1uXpivBDULpbb I6rg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5338w2FlBjBTQHKIObWAWVTxYQU6859jlKk1b0BqwYz4rfc/KW+j xbYiRfGqt3q/gJuLTFGW1b4agmoXH4mUXx8ZRxyRbd+UX2Q= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx3GNcS9XV5osB/HFfjd3qM0GcmXlx/dOwv4BDhaTwmj0AQaSIHnxfFHdwgr5XVuYwQIpL/uE+rbY2nSfSaQrA= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:135:0:b0:5cd:9d22:e9c4 with SMTP id 50-20020a9d0135000000b005cd9d22e9c4mr5065252otu.17.1649349161493; Thu, 07 Apr 2022 09:32:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dan Cross Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 12:32:05 -0400 Message-ID: To: TUHS main list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e1adee05dc130645" Subject: [TUHS] Interesting commentary on Unix from Multicians. X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000e1adee05dc130645 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I came across this talk that, apparently, was meant to be part of a documentary about timesharing systems at MIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZPYBDA6XVo This "episode" features McCarthy, Corbato, Fano, Fredkin, and Philip Morse talking about Multics. Starting at ~12:15m they talk about the triumvirate of MIT, GE and Bell Labs and some of the challenges with distributed work. Around the 14 minute mark, they talk about Bell Labs exiting the project, and touch briefly on the development of Unix. Interesting quotes include Fano talking about different objectives from the different organizations, Corby saying, "they [Bell Labs] dropped out three-quarters of the way through the race" (referring to Multics), Fano asserting that BTL left after the _research_ part of the project was essentially completed, and Corbato talking about the influence of Multics on Unix design (Corby refers to Multics as Ken and Dennis's "prototype" and calls Unix a "second generation Multics"). This was all shot in the early 1980s. The rest is interesting, but mostly unrelated to Unix. - Dan C. (PS: As an aside, Fano lighting up a cigarette at about 19:20 was particularly striking: my, how times have changed.) --000000000000e1adee05dc130645 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I came across this talk that, apparently, was meant to be = part of a documentary about timesharing systems at MIT:=C2=A0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3DKZPYBDA6XVo

This "episode" features McC= arthy, Corbato, Fano, Fredkin, and Philip Morse talking about Multics.

Starting at ~12:15m they talk about the triumvirate of= MIT, GE and Bell Labs and some of the challenges with distributed work. Ar= ound the 14 minute mark, they talk about Bell Labs exiting the project, and= touch briefly on the development of Unix. Interesting quotes include Fano = talking about different objectives from the different organizations, Corby = saying, "they [Bell Labs] dropped out three-quarters of the way throug= h the race" (referring to Multics), Fano asserting that BTL left after= the _research_ part of the project was essentially completed, and Corbato = talking about the influence of Multics on Unix design (Corby refers to Mult= ics as Ken and Dennis's "prototype" and calls Unix a "se= cond generation Multics"). This was all shot in the early 1980s.
=

The rest is interesting, but mostly unrelated to Unix.<= /div>

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Dan C.

(PS: As an aside, Fano lighting up a cigarette a= t about 19:20 was particularly striking: my, how times have changed.)
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