From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, PLING_QUERY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 443618ee for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 12:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id AFB7C94742; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 22:05:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC9293DBB; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 22:04:32 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="ge2dycat"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id EB9A093DBB; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 22:04:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-f172.google.com (mail-lj1-f172.google.com [209.85.208.172]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3137893D28; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 22:04:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-f172.google.com with SMTP id y3so9572552ljj.6; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 05:04:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=CxDqPW8d+/c4f4irbRQBtzMAs8P9a1M6ENCz1KlB5wY=; b=ge2dycatuGz4AxviHmbfldfrftPGmuwohvc1FEX4Ioz65hhbGaLx5sxgS2dT+Duhdj 7IWKaJRWi4i292q62S+dgYLcsz5MmZ7kJ8JK221GbV2dYw3e4mhieaqUuC6yAHqkTcl0 Ft85AF9snncLzJYxdtTclxylz+x7NumHaAswhE+PimRKuVI66EHt+dqGVyYJq/rrUP6E BJLSCAqVhZfUfzbUQi3hAtZSYpw9Rb7jAI1xHIC7o5w5cQbd/ZMZDz1K1ferjOTRXL2l y4/gxpeJvUZ4KCEm62Rc6BvgefkmumFDPSJ5Cf+q5LtOXXqVCpx74UkdRZPDQ9G7xxEA DzyQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CxDqPW8d+/c4f4irbRQBtzMAs8P9a1M6ENCz1KlB5wY=; b=SmXYkn2Mlkzfb05ChsT2ZKZZxMfjxTF1U6BhBvnLkU/uTj+cpf7QnrKR2uzmp4d0SA 6lBmWXu5NS9KdTKTYetnfRfTAVI4B+WORSO8mpG04Jr2+kxk19UM+C9Ss54n0/7ZQ2R8 x5ZqB97iCTtpl81e7gLW1HrXSbw2pbvcvxOzjP+bpq40/ful8g/SU9qc7PQlOKXo3xqz fDD+cg+A/DnlEXld9SQFZzfZmNZrBr7jij3OPW9osdxRm4OUmGnOWlWd2+AMotegQIsN YUSIIgDx0xuROOl0kjOUjY49XsztVNCW/7BG9/whFdqTl7Cj1JYRzs0Gd821mpdBWnf3 NuxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXjinI6C4MerggRiEbkokL9GcbVzttH62L3ody5UH/xpEjoyTD/ cQE7scqjk/Mrdzd2sBWDZIhuxrYBdfxwSgK7IXU1qtg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyDxqR9M3yo0kYdTBu/03wnPEvlVMmw95FIxnTexysCfGIwRBQB0ok0cYhzIPqqKNB66BYK6PqyZeu7W2Tn99E= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:7404:: with SMTP id p4mr8237988ljc.13.1570795467483; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 05:04:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191010205546.GA29154@minnie.tuhs.org> <87h84f4kle.fsf@vuxu.org> In-Reply-To: <87h84f4kle.fsf@vuxu.org> From: Tyler Adams Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:04:15 +0300 Message-ID: To: Leah Neukirchen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000daaf830594a151a2" Subject: Re: [TUHS] What was your "Aha, Unix!" moment? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000daaf830594a151a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" One of the things that makes unix so special to me is how many different ways I had the "Aha" moment. Viscerally, I got drawn in after I tried writing some Batch script for a windows machine and found bash so much easier. Intellectually, ESR's Art of Unix Programming really shown a light onto what made unix feel so fun. Seeing the unix principles laid out shortly and clearly was world changing. Then when Apple and Google pumped out 3 BILLION unix like devices and made unix mainstream, it just nailed it in that unix is a really special piece of software*.* Tyler On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 1:56 PM Leah Neukirchen wrote: > Warren Toomey writes: > > > All, we had another dozen TUHS suscribers to the list overnight. Welcome. > > A reminder that we're here to discuss Unix Heritage, so I'll nudge you > > if the conversation goes a bit off-topic. > > > > So I'll kick off another thread. What was your "ahah" moment when you > > first saw that Unix was special, especially compared to the systems you'd > > previously used? > > I'm not sure if this was *my* "Aha, Unix!" moment, but my Dad > complained once that he had some CSV file containing bills and needed > to do some computation, and it would be a hassle to do in Delphi > (which he is most proficient in). So I told him I could have a look > at it on my Linux system, and while he explained what computations he > needed, I would type in some awk oneliner and a bit of other pipe > stuff and he had his answer within minutes. > > -- > Leah Neukirchen https://leahneukirchen.org/ > --000000000000daaf830594a151a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
One of the things that makes unix so special to me is how many= different ways I had the "Aha" moment.

Viscerally, I got drawn in a= fter I tried writing some Batch script for a windows machine and found bash= so much easier.

Intellectually, ESR's Art of Unix Programming really show= n a light onto what made unix feel so fun. Seeing the unix principles laid = out shortly and clearly was world changing.

Then when Apple and Google pumped = out 3 BILLION unix like devices and made unix mainstream, it just nailed it= in that unix is a really special piece of software.

=C2=A0Tyler


On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 1:56 PM Leah Neukirch= en <leah@vuxu.org> wrote:
Warren Toomey <wkt@tuhs.org> writes:<= br>
> All, we had another dozen TUHS suscribers to the list overnight. Welco= me.
> A reminder that we're here to discuss Unix Heritage, so I'll n= udge you
> if the conversation goes a bit off-topic.
>
> So I'll kick off another thread. What was your "ahah" mo= ment when you
> first saw that Unix was special, especially compared to the systems yo= u'd
> previously used?

I'm not sure if this was *my* "Aha, Unix!" moment, but my Dad=
complained once that he had some CSV file containing bills and needed
to do some computation, and it would be a hassle to do in Delphi
(which he is most proficient in).=C2=A0 So I told him I could have a look at it on my Linux system, and while he explained what computations he
needed, I would type in some awk oneliner and a bit of other pipe
stuff and he had his answer within minutes.

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Leah Neukirchen=C2=A0 <leah@vuxu.org>=C2=A0 https://leahneukirchen.org/
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