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P. Garcia" Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 17:48:07 -0400 Message-ID: To: Warner Losh Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e5dd9e05aaaa1d6a" Subject: Re: [TUHS] H.J. Lu Bootable Root & Base System disks X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list , Grant Taylor Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000e5dd9e05aaaa1d6a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 1:27 PM Warner Losh wrote: > > I would love to find a forum for Linux history like TUHS is for Unix >> history. >> > > I would too... The early days were fun to live through, but much of what I > recall from the time isn't mentioned much, if at all, anymore. > > Warner > Those days were fun. I just went down memory lane with the book "Rebel Code" by Glyn Moody. Good stuff. How different those days were, for me at least. I was just a Linux advocate, enthusiast, and hobbyist until 2000 or so, when I started work as a sysadmin. Red Hat Enterprise Linux was not yet a thing. It was just Red Hat, i.e. just another distro, just one voice of many that were shaping the future of the OS. Nowadays, in the corporate world at least, Red Hat IS Linux, or rather, Linux is whatever Red Hat says it is. That isn't entirely a bad thing. Gentoo is great for my personal use, in the same way that FreeBSD is. But if I have to support a few hundred servers, I'd rather do it with vSphere, RHEL, and Ansible. > --000000000000e5dd9e05aaaa1d6a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 1:27 PM Warner Losh <= ;imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
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I would love to find a forum for Linux history like TUHS is for Unix
history.

I would too... The early days = were fun to live through, but much of what I recall from the time isn't= mentioned much, if at all, anymore.

Warner
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Those days were fun. I just went down memory lane with the book "Rebe= l Code" by Glyn Moody. Good stuff.

How different those days were, for me at least. I was just = a Linux advocate, enthusiast, and hobbyist until 2000 or so, when I started= work as a sysadmin. Red Hat Enterprise Linux was not yet a thing. It was j= ust Red Hat, i.e. just another distro, just one voice of many that were sha= ping the future of the OS. Nowadays, in the corporate world at least, Red H= at IS Linux, or rather, Linux is whatever Red Hat says it is.

That isn't entirely a bad thing. = Gentoo is great for my personal use, in the same way that FreeBSD is. But i= f I have to support a few hundred servers, I'd rather do it with vSpher= e, RHEL, and Ansible.
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