From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a5baaeef for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2018 19:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 54614A1DEB; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 05:50:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A73EA1DCC; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 05:49:48 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=XfbVBd2y; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D669AA1DCD; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 05:49:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-f173.google.com (mail-lj1-f173.google.com [209.85.208.173]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69246A1DCC for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 05:49:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-f173.google.com with SMTP id p89-v6so215119ljb.3 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2018 12:49:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=zR9Pw2XjHUsC4HX2rVi96PlhQzRVz0VK9+ryqmXdTuY=; b=XfbVBd2yIkxN3os9k0NBrEc8DMIhAu3THORZMewuKoX7G7iaBF1UdDF4VdNnmig3ss rmuh4ePWJfbtzge+gOEabhtYEpFLIsHOK8B8XuYD40MBn9HyoHlDcMRSL3O0Xs8foHJL 8ZrwAd2WKYBkpX5G4+6UJVwx4k22yDkzAEVd35NBgN7P1akw4YRhv+x+6lmuzEdyC+kl RjCF9/Yu1fI5kRLBRvwAwyomF7mbkQY/hO4whVlb0614DuMINZVka/gMp6blTL00wZGf 7tYhe9krP01LOH3GIIm4HGpqIyCizeHvFGko2BdTnTEU+BnnR8FUkRMCoMNjMTehqNXt waHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=zR9Pw2XjHUsC4HX2rVi96PlhQzRVz0VK9+ryqmXdTuY=; b=DcgVrmUN/mnBAouHGVmUky4hMc3N8TjzuxxP8ZdxeG635IqYG5aAKnoz/18gk0Srkx xtPCKVYVKXM8uIiCPHGl81QCRMNqBnHPYqvUXICXX7phuVWGJOu8IcY+79RVgby1XWli WEYK5qvQQSrdxOCFT2YNKgRWttW1u/cvle/wqrONFeBuP89PNcUrLPNq15IaNO3SPNl0 9g6fe1YgOWx8HXe70CoY/fveRKHaDhjOMtwOBEjjlBY8N8FXEpbtFgA4/ngtTKCgNTml hP/kKZ5+smFuHScUgx0AnhVib5R6Iy0mjSWEkMkith5dNDDX0FBDLQiC4s5UeK4/WubV cClQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfohJPOeS118IIMdiAGhTp2vNPcoSrqlyvd6oxyNOdk7PXkDa4uWV q0GklIzHp90Npy0Xbtp539SKdx62RojT4822SKYSLA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62/OtgU4REhQ9olp1wPHNMyLGstkUg57HIWqoFF8OGounEV97tFaiXDeRmK11X50lOImfUcj9vQ9kRltI16Dn8= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9851:: with SMTP id e17-v6mr2570586ljj.143.1537732180358; Sun, 23 Sep 2018 12:49:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1686170E-4323-4BDF-B95C-8A6B3FFD5288@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1686170E-4323-4BDF-B95C-8A6B3FFD5288@gmail.com> From: "A. P. Garcia" Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 15:49:28 -0400 Message-ID: To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005ebf9705768f2cfa" Subject: Re: [TUHS] SPARC is CRAPS spelled backwards. X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000005ebf9705768f2cfa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Sep 23, 2018, 2:37 PM Don Hopkins wrote: > Its register windows have spilled out into the SCRAP heap of history. > But to its credit, the SPARCSTATION represents PANTISOCRACY with NO RACIST > PAST. > It ROASTS CATNIP for SATANIC SPORT with no PARTISAN COST. > It can create a CAT SOPRANIST with a CASTRATO SNIP. > In trying to steer this word salad towards some semblance of meaningful discussion, is SPARC dead? Practically, yes, I would say so. Or at least it seems to be heading in that direction. Is RISC dead? Not at all. ARM is doing quite well, and the old "CISC vs RISC" thing seems to be a non-issue now, as even the current x86 processors have adopted many design features that originated in RISC research. The saddest thing about the death of SPARC, in my opinion, is that it likely also means the death of the most advanced OS with "true" UNIX roots. CDDL was ostensibly chosen to prevent Linux from cannibalizing the best parts of Solaris. But it only seems to have slowed that down. --0000000000005ebf9705768f2cfa Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On S= un, Sep 23, 2018, 2:37 PM Don Hopkins <don@donhopkins.com> wrote:

Its = register windows have spilled out into the SCRAP heap of history.
But to= its credit, the SPARCSTATION represents PANTISOCRACY with NO RACIST PAST.= =C2=A0
It ROASTS CATNIP for SATANIC SPORT with no PARTISAN COST.=C2=A0It can=C2=A0create a CAT SOPRANIST with a CASTRATO SNIP.

In trying to steer= this word salad towards some semblance of meaningful discussion, is SPARC = dead? Practically, yes, I would say so. Or at least it seems to be heading = in that direction. Is RISC dead? Not at all. ARM is doing quite well, and t= he old "CISC vs RISC" thing seems to be a non-issue now, as even = the current x86 processors have adopted many design features that originate= d in RISC research.

The saddest thing about the death of SPARC, in my opinion, is that i= t likely also means the death of the most advanced OS with "true"= UNIX roots. CDDL was ostensibly chosen to prevent Linux from cannibalizing= the best parts of Solaris. But it only seems to have slowed that down.
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