From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: a.phillip.garcia@gmail.com (A. P. Garcia) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 09:17:38 -0500 Subject: [TUHS] Bryan Cantrill on bfs & ta In-Reply-To: <20121022141309.GC7250@bitmover.com> References: <508087E8.7030309@gmail.com> <20121022003325.GA7250@bitmover.com> <20121022133437.GB7250@bitmover.com> <20121022141309.GC7250@bitmover.com> Message-ID: yes, it's in the references here: http://static.usenix.org/event/usenix04/tech/general/full_papers/cantrill/cantrill_html/ i'm pretty sure i saw it in the solaris documentation that cantrill wrote as well.. On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Larry McVoy wrote: > Go Bart. I took some classes from him in grad school (I think, did > undergrad there as well), liked his style. Smart guy. > > Do the dtrace guys credit Bart at all? > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 09:05:46AM -0500, A. P. Garcia wrote: > > Yes, Bart Miller regarding "Fine-grained dynamic instrumentation of > > commodity operating sytem kernels": > > ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/paradyn/papers/Tamches99FineGrained.pdf > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > > > Which professor and which work? I'm guessing Bart. > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 08:01:44AM -0500, A. P. Garcia wrote: > > > > I watched one he gave at a usenix conference where he sort of > recapped > > > some > > > > of the history of solaris and how oracle ruined everything and drove > away > > > > all the talent. Whether he had a valid point or not, it wasn't very > > > > becoming. I don't know..it just never looks good when you air that > stuff > > > > out in public. > > > > > > > > That said, it's hard to exaggerate the brilliance of dtrace. Like a > > > > uw-madison professor said about some of the work that inspired it, > it's > > > > like watching in fine detail the inner parts of an engine move while > > > going > > > > down the highway at 60 mph. > > > > On Oct 21, 2012 7:56 PM, "Larry McVoy" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Did anyone watch his talk? I just tried and couldn't make out > what he > > > was > > > > > talking about. > > > > > > > > > > Bryan's a smart guy but a little subjective. I spent a day > wandering > > > > > around San Franciso with him (we used to live within a few blocks > of > > > > > each other) talking tech stuff, hardware, os, etc. He was > completely > > > > > rational, smart, insightful, until we got to either sparc or > solaris. > > > > > Then he was subjective as hell, he just couldn't back away from > them > > > > > enough to make an objective comparison to other solutions. > > > > > > > > > > Funny thing was that so long as sparc/solaris weren't the subject > > > matter > > > > > he was very objective, could see the pros/cons of anything. > > > > > > > > > > I guess he drank the Sun koolaid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:51:20PM +0100, Sevan / Venture37 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk8aZv0JJuk&feature=player_detailpage#t=3493s > > > > > > > > > > > > "SunOS has never run on a 16bit machine" > > > > > > > > > > > > My response was M68000 & 386 but his counter response was they > both > > > > > > supported 32bit addressing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sevan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > TUHS mailing list > > > > > > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > > > > > > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > --- > > > > > Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com > > > > > http://www.bitkeeper.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > TUHS mailing list > > > > > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > > > > > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --- > > > Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com > > > http://www.bitkeeper.com > > > > > -- > --- > Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com > http://www.bitkeeper.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: