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From: a.phillip.garcia@gmail.com (A. P. Garcia)
Subject: [TUHS] Bryan Cantrill on bfs & ta
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 09:05:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFCBnZvkOAaCvUcih3Q--qm-4wA9qUYwTLCVuaZ23xnbK0N8tg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121022133437.GB7250@bitmover.com>

Yes, Bart Miller regarding "Fine-grained dynamic instrumentation of
commodity operating sytem kernels":
ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/paradyn/papers/Tamches99FineGrained.pdf


On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Larry McVoy <lm at bitmover.com> wrote:

> Which professor and which work?   I'm guessing Bart.
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 08:01:44AM -0500, A. P. Garcia wrote:
> > I watched one he gave at a usenix conference where he sort of recapped
> some
> > of the history of solaris and how oracle ruined everything and drove away
> > all the talent. Whether he had a valid point or not, it wasn't very
> > becoming. I don't know..it just never looks good when you air that stuff
> > out in public.
> >
> > That said, it's hard to exaggerate the brilliance of dtrace. Like a
> > uw-madison professor said about some of the work that inspired it, it's
> > like watching in fine detail the inner parts of an engine move while
> going
> > down the highway at 60 mph.
> > On Oct 21, 2012 7:56 PM, "Larry McVoy" <lm at bitmover.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Did anyone watch his talk?  I just tried and couldn't make out what he
> was
> > > talking about.
> > >
> > > Bryan's a smart guy but a little subjective.  I spent a day wandering
> > > around San Franciso with him (we used to live within a few blocks of
> > > each other) talking tech stuff, hardware, os, etc.  He was completely
> > > rational, smart, insightful, until we got to either sparc or solaris.
> > > Then he was subjective as hell, he just couldn't back away from them
> > > enough to make an objective comparison to other solutions.
> > >
> > > Funny thing was that so long as sparc/solaris weren't the subject
> matter
> > > he was very objective, could see the pros/cons of anything.
> > >
> > > I guess he drank the Sun koolaid.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:51:20PM +0100, Sevan / Venture37 wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk8aZv0JJuk&feature=player_detailpage#t=3493s
> > > >
> > > > "SunOS has never run on a 16bit machine"
> > > >
> > > > My response was M68000 & 386 but his counter response was they both
> > > > supported 32bit addressing.
> > > >
> > > > Sevan
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
> > > --
> > > ---
> > > Larry McVoy                lm at bitmover.com
> > > http://www.bitkeeper.com
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> > >
>
> --
> ---
> Larry McVoy                lm at bitmover.com
> http://www.bitkeeper.com
>
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Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-18 22:51 Sevan / Venture37
2012-10-18 23:40 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2012-10-19 20:44   ` Clem Cole
2012-10-19 20:54     ` John Cowan
2012-10-19 22:13       ` Peter Jeremy
2012-10-22  0:33 ` Larry McVoy
2012-10-22 13:01   ` A. P. Garcia
2012-10-22 13:34     ` Larry McVoy
2012-10-22 14:05       ` A. P. Garcia [this message]
2012-10-22 14:13         ` Larry McVoy
2012-10-22 14:17           ` A. P. Garcia

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