From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3378 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2023 01:07:27 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Jan 2023 01:07:27 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C3E42510; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:07:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pf1-f175.google.com (mail-pf1-f175.google.com [209.85.210.175]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F9DE4250F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:07:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pf1-f175.google.com with SMTP id 127so2885452pfe.4 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 17:07:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=4sio36mHmFlkKrf3vhWGQ1LwAfQuYpBigQS9Ntb4G/I=; b=emX5GFPubDhuUoOpzsPSXJ31U1iIbXSOBzL6BR28SKns3znd2lknx3wfpxDp0MTDML H4oGIv4qNiWZ4xwJhQWoYCTOuN+CpwlZRq+yevFIDHBS/gq4N+PbMBVrdllvw/64VxPA iU6Gy25QTm80+q6PS3+HEByMZLuxp+KKvqB+HgAJ4+KKNdNlBZj1tj+P5zFtRMpBaZhh wB444FuhfE2O4DUCd01DEe7qZmo3MDqW7b+mtdKgHzU7rA1+q9+avdne5ILNCVFTJBOH oWZSbd2oi7uTLA8SUlG82Dnick7PDvJ/iD+SKD1wxkeXBl6MgIudq/DUeZ+N9DS/qPvr eDXw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=4sio36mHmFlkKrf3vhWGQ1LwAfQuYpBigQS9Ntb4G/I=; b=xoDg5SQClUVhwpEo2EHlG8LJYTTcJUnCL5u56g32jTQYVbdfBHOlRDYDbLl2dPp9cj adE9NGOWw4vET2NvZMm0OQnMosutNZLMFxOdOBWVM1YzFPu4HQc0kHK2FaAEi7GFyt5n 0nwvIeAeo6NcwzkpzYS5L5T/uv4QqjY0Q1bcHirLJ/+uw8vMMs9ImgTa2+qOeZklAq8b WHQ26EdVSEe/nKUSeUBNkKszX+lQ+Ls0VFK/ffN5yH0JIma3GRf94YgNeQ1pynoiO49M TyUUQuZkUO2XzVmFXphn06Gss/xPf2+SEHaMP/jYxb8kgyHPI8dTX6vuMvMNClXRzgyB jj5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kregyBODFB3JrMxlioFaGq67R/9+KSi22i+A7aG5BVxSnTgGDBF Xcc9hm5SANKWbyGGZgIpNm2GkSAaNL/+XFEuerw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXv7cJEdb5JWJnhZHa8YtsoQyu5kYyMcVtfOceZ8EggRB6yTFiUEMtJMJIin0B/f9ljdcLPkwPH+Jw3x6O7HEgM= X-Received: by 2002:a63:f953:0:b0:46e:9363:d96e with SMTP id q19-20020a63f953000000b0046e9363d96emr1412714pgk.85.1674176766168; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 17:06:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202301180943.30I9hrOw030485@freefriends.org> <202301190802.30J82KwQ025718@freefriends.org> <20230119150434.GA626@mcvoy.com> <25545.58523.4766.431157@dobie-old.ylee.org> In-Reply-To: From: Rich Salz Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 20:05:55 -0500 Message-ID: To: George Michaelson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000070567705f2a7a7a0" Message-ID-Hash: SMZSVGIL4SN4DNWQH5UYHK2RDAV7IAXH X-Message-ID-Hash: SMZSVGIL4SN4DNWQH5UYHK2RDAV7IAXH X-MailFrom: rich.salz@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Yeechang Lee , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: The era of general purpose computing (Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --00000000000070567705f2a7a7a0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" : > Mike Lesk is interesting on this. He said to me that if you assume people > are idiots they learn to behave to your expectations and if you treat them > with the respect they deserve they grow. > This is well-known in the fields of management and teaching. > There's no 'just' in women's work. As the Chinese maoist poster said: > "women hold up half the sky" > I never said women, I said secretaries. Deliberately so. --00000000000070567705f2a7a7a0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Mike Lesk is interes= ting on this. He said to me that if you assume people are idiots they learn= to behave to your expectations and if you treat them with the respect they= deserve they grow.

This is well-kno= wn in the fields of management and teaching.
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There's= no 'just' in women's work. As the Chinese maoist poster said: = "women hold up half the sky"

I never said women, I said secretaries.=C2=A0 Deliberately so.
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