From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD51C26CDA for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 23:17:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E99435E8; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:17:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pj1-x102a.google.com (mail-pj1-x102a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::102a]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E5BC435E4 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:17:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pj1-x102a.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2c86e3fb6e7so3116024a91.1 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 14:17:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1719436659; x=1720041459; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ROERfhKUyOTIfHPwHySYGnkaqbcnNxZFpxd5zXREQvg=; b=hvkdOv3Eu8Ly0jJ7ocizvYWsKUZmR15wtmiAwt7TJuEk10t/gpa8/zie3MoeO+gIlM P3Xx9/8ZDdkEyYLS4gxDGUn0/clRJkhDLKzODNQ6tbc04RKLaOiZj7in0bqEGT8eESER GCGkCqG5TUM8Uhj7G7wFbdT1IHAkL6sfcyUWjsIm7VtOd0/2uW/VUjGp3FFENkuOtYT9 rgPXPSQwNWdRRSaIzvrsvaKBBNAeAPYZ85o9y0AiWRLnQplZ3rPUwGrw1x6bECYoAtFW Ce+aQKPXyBlPl5bwldLe+RbdwJKaoZBeLMYsP5RcN1Uw+nbcZOVDfsAp0DlFYnh+u8X4 TVug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1719436659; x=1720041459; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=ROERfhKUyOTIfHPwHySYGnkaqbcnNxZFpxd5zXREQvg=; b=rejMTU7vZoW+OIHSTDHvAqfydZBfYyha2Ga1LQIf7QfljPAQKHGZ+oXo1Df9tH6odE 8SkVBs/8o3nz2VeVOEUpN80yGfG1sLEEm5N9rZmz9HKGJ4OPoYe0pmO6TMegebb7UxJB sPNK3bRMgooVyC2gEK2I3CO3qQkDP7M0wULYNGdUBwrHRVuFelFJjzjgC29wl4B+VXIk jQqpr8NcG/CzSm1Q4w7kQLw73QnjrfhOwsp/5514TdfbBM1JQm63DEh7267vHmCXMt+e WV2LoK8jSaFwpKuvsqSpfkgOm1r9nNxS3TdBqy7/09nlYibIb6vKvZkdFHNOX6+a8LiH eWUw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwHZChYoX2Tt7nldZnF2mEkIZVm5HgvuH1ZD0Avxcqob1wfPYOM 2W0Y8bcu/pvsyA/BWqYitHzA6d318n69PqB5BMdWU+MsL1ewWIXWarGjYDxjtLHsjkPlK2LCBAY vgOw+SXXWO+uUHpzYU5LefJ0vY4a5zxkO X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHBiDGfjjb+0ofrEDDNVEbjn6c3tUVNNB3+OVTlRoI2qTxoYxYEGgCFSrFWpmmeyzRft5AhK8rJQwqj1K/V8fQ= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:bd88:b0:2c4:a1c9:b76d with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2c861409efamr9275528a91.37.1719436659092; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 14:17:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Rich Salz Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 17:17:27 -0400 Message-ID: To: Marc Rochkind Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004780cc061bd18bac" Message-ID-Hash: AYI77BRTG6A7PLOFUPA4E2J2G35Q5Y37 X-Message-ID-Hash: AYI77BRTG6A7PLOFUPA4E2J2G35Q5Y37 X-MailFrom: rich.salz@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) Standards Body Selection List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000004780cc061bd18bac Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > It came from OSF, the Open Systems Foundation, which was easily the most > arrogant organization I ever dealt with. I think they were disbanded as a > result of a lawsuit involving restraint of trade, or monopolistic behavior, > or a cartel, or something along those lines. > OSF stopped developing and shipping reference implementations of software when it merged with X/Open to become The Open Group. Doing that (and shutting down their Research Institute) was the price for getting Sun to join; they didn't want other programmers competing with them. ( was technical lead of OSF DCE at the time of the merger, and left when it became clear there was never going to be any coding there any more.) --0000000000004780cc061bd18bac Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=C2=A0It came from OSF, the Open S= ystems Foundation, which was easily the most arrogant organization I ever d= ealt with. I think they were disbanded as a result of a lawsuit involving r= estraint of trade, or monopolistic behavior, or a cartel, or something alon= g those lines.
OSF stopped developing and shipping refer= ence implementations of software when it merged with X/Open to become The O= pen Group. Doing that (and shutting down their Research Institute) was the = price for getting Sun to join; they didn't want other programmers compe= ting with them. ( was technical lead of OSF DCE at the time of the merger, = and left when it became clear there was never going to be any coding there = any more.)
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