From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 6c64e4dc for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 15:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1CDB59BDCE; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 01:14:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD8D94791; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 01:14:41 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="Hwn9mOWF"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 91B8794791; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 01:14:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-f174.google.com (mail-lj1-f174.google.com [209.85.208.174]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B79149478F for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 01:14:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-f174.google.com with SMTP id f1so322739ljc.2 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 08:14:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=oRHBQnw8uPZTn+WjRU11mdynBzqUTqCCGwh4c9hjopI=; b=Hwn9mOWFcia1TdM/987Lv/pILhUglA2DMbRqgvciz3MioPxfxVtL3SuL63Rf3quGyz upT6IQL8xa3acArLiD9T1Rzm1AsL9v5NoAeK3dtWrPbQukyfdFqSrBe40iaw6NvXOc7g c2XCa8z3gfG+8SfoYXVjzavs7PxPEizhflpgJ4Q7vWfcX/drZM6ZQKYBr102wBAZ64da Tm/AWlfPvnUamdKJclJVJtW0BqpicWigsOvRJyRGdwHEBmrZPzTM1/O7gjPdxd+069L8 F7/WcNpJtU8hGvRZ4eOLm93oh9pmewl4ca5f86r0hpYbqycniY3ICD2okCDzAz2u+vQr lHoQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=oRHBQnw8uPZTn+WjRU11mdynBzqUTqCCGwh4c9hjopI=; b=H0l0UtktF2idkjsAV+4OBElnoqnWXXZRznTiVuhBQTNIfAJYe85taNPpKmM71BF7xb n99hjN2umdVkeMfOe4lhhuqlFi3BNpybDejY2P0e7vsgdUnf6346nufx6bZj5xJFiX8+ luVvwyQMTA4hxWDFGCq1Kd4eqv6R8G/XVw56fQ49fMuQxRMRUzwiqyWs1oov6GdvOZAo AB31MWYy5QK1xjYay1Z8BP8xFqnALc6gAlTIklqDxkzqVvCq0tK2VqSV5SLs0Ua/JOnM PRYGO5xJOS3uEFvEA5Tq9YRlU0j99CaDXx4tDdNlbslrKcDdd5sQX/b4GovV4nqrz+lf 7Jjw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVmvtxKf2qWV5NOCkFupkdx+EZVZsgkFhmI6kIL39MhASp7M37L bWzPPffQKVSSL7WBYkLXW5GF3M30mDEfuuQbhzw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxCFduBS85JnVgqzJTnBZutJynbTYG+iOVPEUrjuq+4FQa7OWaIpts4BVTS7xcUQK1trA5M6n2KK/k7lCApvis= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:b4c4:: with SMTP id r4mr82440ljm.69.1568646876936; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 08:14:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190913221345.GA16129@minnie.tuhs.org> <20190914020240.GO2046@mcvoy.com> <20190914024433.GA19193@minnie.tuhs.org> <2e84c4d0-5239-b223-856d-00aacf8d3028@andrewnesbit.org> <201909150654.x8F6sChG021185@freefriends.org> <201909160552.x8G5qBYK025195@freefriends.org> <20190916145122.GH2046@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: From: Richard Salz Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:14:25 -0400 Message-ID: To: Clem Cole Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e0c0770592ad0f87" Subject: Re: [TUHS] earliest Unix roff X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000e0c0770592ad0f87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Is it any surprise that the early GNU effort was really trying to recreate ITS? Can you really blame them? I'm grateful that they made `info` be a standalone program. Putting the concept of "cursor position" into the existing pagers (more/less/etc) and doing jump/xref/back would be more than a stretch, IMO. --000000000000e0c0770592ad0f87 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is it any surprise that the early GNU effort was real= ly trying to recreate ITS?=C2=A0 Can you really blame them?=C2=A0 I'm g= rateful that they made `info` be a standalone program.=C2=A0 Putting the co= ncept of "cursor position" into the existing pagers (more/less/et= c) and doing jump/xref/back would be more than a stretch, IMO.
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