From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id cecace16 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 01:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 78BCF9C22F; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 11:19:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642669C1FF; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 11:19:15 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="DVNQbeoY"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C19FF9C1FF; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 11:19:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-f179.google.com (mail-lj1-f179.google.com [209.85.208.179]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11F539C14A for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 11:19:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-f179.google.com with SMTP id m26so4851516ljc.13 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:19:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=+w1at03uudP5UGGd04sV/iOKiXJPH+iUxQT3VQZd9x8=; b=DVNQbeoYGReo/pz3lQUXeA37Ri0wzix0uLHjzQr+u6tT8hnQYNfN0NB+f/cW1ioUPo 5cNsyOnLYVqEFRWmaG7ask8Y8IdyMtqaSSG6gdA1Q/Dnn7T0OCe1yRVqtZDso4/jy3Wz pj2pucOVrN4b9+vSf1behn+nmpSjaOSuyiTPMK6zJPVsh5MsuxBsWk8HrxKwU8frb/0h pJZIDX06ARrrLttyUVMmkq2AAtMrdB3OXWcteduZ/AaEZSBJ6jgcQkOCFYmrAsIvOixW 3o01/tLgztS9zobPq5kO9BXOq0kADpX5N9ra5phaXR3qvTshmMHsUCVkTyynDtX6iG+8 KZJg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+w1at03uudP5UGGd04sV/iOKiXJPH+iUxQT3VQZd9x8=; b=Us+sZC7hoKjrt0jaJ4bENhfBD1qJVlhnwdIshsUq9jmKsC7ThpVhNbW1sK0GSkpzwk gwppDcEazxcX+Ru3V7WB03hDUDtKPsqymEIE7QeMTrLJ+LWxPSfx3yU4UUHqPbfbi/W4 kwkHqkfqiG5gqKAWhKX/+/n4hceaz+L2INxHb4Skb4FfbWOTSW+1JRrbg5Xv97w/XruU MmNHISnmeZU3qryrKCbNhMKMZoVsPmLlOm432G5p7wViUZDP7BULxlx9UNwu80JomZ7x /iXj2FiLEaVzP+pfRS0n/nYmFWa7xOCV/pLYOQF/m5HukJM4IWIXp8fG/r2aaLRVA2Rt bOCA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWzo/MVg+O9obUz3riOq4QrXwBuuaYTjDCNmEPG2D8LL5XEJAvA gkbArDblCMcMIAT0TfeuK4Wnas2/DceBF+29gPU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyfllJ+T/jg9MNenYZVBQzOT3n4GD3syRiE1VHQGfQc6SHVIcDda/TmLq1qrzyFabFIVADYh1SOJX71Po+xvLU= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9850:: with SMTP id e16mr18472703ljj.268.1579655950412; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:19:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200121230025.GL15860@mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <20200121230025.GL15860@mit.edu> From: Richard Salz Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:18:59 -0500 Message-ID: To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000caae66059cb04fd2" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Apollo Domain/OS X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000caae66059cb04fd2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Paul was still at Apollo at the time that OSF/DCE picked Apollo's NCA/NCS as the RPC system. I don't know when he left Apollo (or HP/Chelmsford after they bought it) for Microsoft, but it was before OSF died. That latter happened because Sun (Rob Gingell?) insisted OSF stop doing all development as the price of ending the Unix wars and joining everyone in opposing Redmond. We could no longer say OSF stood for Oppose Sun Forever. I liked that NCA could handle env vars in pathnames, which Locus also had IIRC. Domain also had "fat executables" similar to what Apple did when migrating across CPUs. And their build and source system was recreated as ClearCase. --000000000000caae66059cb04fd2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Paul was still at Apollo at the time= that OSF/DCE picked Apollo's NCA/NCS as the RPC system.=C2=A0 I don= 9;t know when he left Apollo (or HP/Chelmsford after they bought it) for Mi= crosoft, but it was before OSF died.=C2=A0 That latter happened because Sun= (Rob Gingell?) insisted OSF stop doing all development as the price of end= ing the Unix wars and joining everyone in opposing Redmond.=C2=A0 We could = no longer say OSF stood for Oppose Sun Forever.

I liked= that NCA could handle env vars in pathnames, which Locus also had IIRC.=C2= =A0 Domain also had "fat executables" similar to what Apple did w= hen migrating across CPUs.=C2=A0 And their build and source system was recr= eated as ClearCase.

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