From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 32461 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2023 17:01:55 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 24 Feb 2023 17:01:55 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22B143240; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 03:01:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pg1-x52e.google.com (mail-pg1-x52e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52e]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE341431B8 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 03:01:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pg1-x52e.google.com with SMTP id y19so7997145pgk.5 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 09:01:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=q9qSy1UIG8KB6BRgbTTpO4AAqQfl6ZYPdX2JJFWUeJs=; b=IA5oxMCz8lVkY/nIruqOL4rnyClXudl1hBZlmAi2UJr9DmAHXoJSsuGI8tw6V2/5uH Mved/5GhpY1gy23KNXlazVVgwaU5D9z/AQdfrm15q124Z3NrLM8gDFmhjr8Q4PDmNvck CiN7H+DRX3iZrL/XM1yYSGsEHuTOuZk8/inz9bGzH6/R/JOf6el5DgRE6M1CtJRx3V3V JNB+3DQn7esTf6HHKfS4Yh6cLE3pemstf/Ds5RpIFXwCnPV+cA+jonlzl7cE3NtJz1xn QIeMoJg0Nn0xmUx5ZPBlLsRmy8tiqwFP9yL4OEuBb39XKysy12byvKWTTInmVe2FU8dT SYng== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=q9qSy1UIG8KB6BRgbTTpO4AAqQfl6ZYPdX2JJFWUeJs=; b=AM7Mhw09Etj9FkX+F8UUHuHYOVftEZuiiBD6DpwF/UGArIAQ4cN7LMdjAlWRR26ucQ 8ug72ZVAVzfdajgmF8ijyIJ1n33cVNjs/tRVfi4jlYI8yA+pD0N3hs6Qw1kqPSfAeH87 JKIYw9bNTqNZfmOOab0CnMy3QnBhuE/dVYFCqECmcB1Mk7jan/C2h6oYXkk2quZ5l3FP DEUxek8QkjVMUXt1Xd81eFdVSlFMIk04IAaCx8a+mW3r+Qy/tuYry5DuxCwD0x2EGOXP mPyuXfDhPveSqIw5jS+5Og8TogpBDSvHwb8Hr2C4ccPAu2OSsw3nUtEgwK7a3IQFVvVB xqnA== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKUciJiJs7W5ZAjD3YQ6M2oom/jIAWqePwJoYvHxyvML4OiCeowQ mZCaS3MRphYjNQh2HbDFG/IhdRfOYo4dERsn/s0Nw0sqdPtMpg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set/GM72xyo2lpeW80VZxLsGxd3LL1Rdu9JaqE2UxWL9m53cQ1spFULAkJlyt9b1E0dVR4doTuxKeX4eShy34dLs= X-Received: by 2002:a63:7556:0:b0:4fb:9902:fc4a with SMTP id f22-20020a637556000000b004fb9902fc4amr3148677pgn.10.1677258099681; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 09:01:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7wcz60x5ae.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> In-Reply-To: From: Rich Salz Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 12:01:28 -0500 Message-ID: To: Warner Losh Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003a76ed05f5751580" Message-ID-Hash: FVDAI4FTBUUFUYEZO5VPGDETGVNBYVF4 X-Message-ID-Hash: FVDAI4FTBUUFUYEZO5VPGDETGVNBYVF4 X-MailFrom: rich.salz@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Origins of the SGS (System Generation Software) and COFF (Common Object File Format) List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000003a76ed05f5751580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > MIT's PCC ports to various micros, especailly x86, also used b.out that > was quite similar to a.out. > That was a cross-compiler, right? If so, I remember going over to MIT-LCS and picking up a copy of the sources for the compiler and the MIT PC/IP implementation. I had to show a copy of my ATT source license to the secretary, who made a copy of a 9track tape for me.She was a hoot: dressed like a punk, and we takled about not working for defense companies. We were then able to build and install various TCP/IP utilities on our PC-AT machines running early Windows releases. This was probably early 1980's. I think the PC/IP code was based on David Clark's upcalls idea[1]. It later became the basis for FTP software, which then died when Microsoft added TCP to windows. [1] https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=e7c6da568d15a3ea50854dbd951c1d6394502a15 --0000000000003a76ed05f5751580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

MIT's PCC ports to v= arious micros, especailly x86, also used b.out that was quite similar to a.= out.

T= hat was a cross-compiler, right? If so, I remember going over to MIT-LCS an= d picking up a copy of the sources for the compiler and the MIT PC/IP imple= mentation. I had to show a copy of my ATT source license to the secretary, = who made a copy of a 9track tape for me.She was=C2=A0 a hoot: dressed like = a punk, and we takled about not working for defense companies. We were then= able to build and install various TCP/IP utilities on our PC-AT machines r= unning early Windows releases.=C2=A0 This was probably early 1980's. I = think the PC/IP code was based on David Clark's upcalls idea[1]. It lat= er became the basis for FTP software, which then died when Microsoft added = TCP to windows.

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