From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 29887 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2021 03:52:40 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Jan 2021 03:52:40 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 14A529C7CB; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 13:52:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98079C772; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 13:52:03 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="Q5OP4s8h"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 512009C772; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 13:52:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-f177.google.com (mail-lj1-f177.google.com [209.85.208.177]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D30D9C6CF for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 13:51:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-f177.google.com with SMTP id u4so11286844ljh.6 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 19:51:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=rALDioYWlfpjHXvdOEFG+hPDjFEpq2LHplKkWfggUI0=; b=Q5OP4s8hQGSNJHa9ytlhgVxETnVYYffn11f9azEyJjtV3FauSk0nSIy+klBECehcR7 AatMBONxBAaec1n6OJvjANq9rk+bSebM1vzQD0kSt5wdy6fylB/WAFsYitT0LsoBE45t jLpHGbXmPGFjt207SmZvCf/sqoS10aLgYqwBIzb5Wre1P7aTzsbNHZOlfpem+dqRPptj LKpaBsvBuSHtsN0miy8Oa6OxWBjV65NYW8BFfLA54bautV8g5ZO84vvdpNa5byXHxUdr FylT/ljSjLeQBVCfCRQ6mrfErCfVu8P7Mb3juo4sCbv6MNY1I19MIQZ2lsJbKyw0C2Fg NgCQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rALDioYWlfpjHXvdOEFG+hPDjFEpq2LHplKkWfggUI0=; b=fjy/gLvcFzlea2Q9LH4CKp6njh3ofaHXPFJW0+Y0iHBLVlkd3Rcu2W2wJiD8P5n5as OybbRgUhLOvDJwHz45YFKkjqsH0m8HUcAvwVTsfXXbnGJxbmZ9yPEOrZUTgAIr3Be0hn /MIBpmsdzZTuisZhF1YRc31Qvgof7KxkZo167YI4RdH/etr9uI+Q7hVsdM3eceNtBO2m K/+zaG5HOKrM7ulAFU4G1dLQR4QH1XpxsQFLaBvgPMuZPw//b6uu3UAZxGyC++xGAIn1 d19zD5tDYL9kUz/mjspx4x67HcWYEtgv0NP6W0o1iD+z51QEvoEof7viB2tHuMo7k2Zl +aFA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530eigEuEnU7dAFwukIxNFr2QOU2NhrFsl3VQ+BFyrT4NyBFI6xR cFEz4jQr6H9SHZd+RaCSNf7t4WL+Ohys0/REG4o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyrwwLjHVPdFbXL2bt7bMlAUx/mu/pXPkAX+1detLDnk/+QcrqtEwjaiOWwbbHQeF7vyzqQqcBT+a+SnM2mIIs= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:b00c:: with SMTP id y12mr4110638ljk.259.1611978717546; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 19:51:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210124183653.GD21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242045.10OKjDvA964774@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210124211100.GI21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242114.10OLEYGk966708@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210124212525.GJ21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242333.10ONXjcI974038@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202101250021.10P0L3Z2976588@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <6557f782-ecb1-6476-1eda-e23f30f9bbea@bitsavers.org> In-Reply-To: From: Richard Salz Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 22:51:46 -0500 Message-ID: To: Dave Horsfall Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d8554005ba160a45" Subject: Re: [TUHS] tangential unix question: whatever happened to NeWS? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000d8554005ba160a45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" PER is not the reason for the hatred of ASN.1, it's more that the specs were created by a pay-to-play organization that fought against TCP/IP, the specs were not freely available for long years, BER was too flexible, and the DER rules were almost too hard to get right. Just a terse summary because this is probably off-topic for TUHS. --000000000000d8554005ba160a45 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
PER is not the reason for the hatred of ASN.1, it's mo= re that the specs were created by a pay-to-play organization that fought ag= ainst TCP/IP, the specs were not freely available for long years, BER was t= oo flexible, and the DER rules were almost too hard to get right.=C2=A0 Jus= t a terse summary because this is probably off-topic for TUHS.
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