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On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 7:20 PM M Douglas McIlroy <
m.douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> Connectivity evolved rapidly in the early 1980s. In 1980 I served on the
> board of CSNet, which connected have-not CS departments (including Bell
> Labs) via dialup and X.25 links onto the periphery of the magic circle
> of Arpanet.


I think Steve Bellovin said something about CSNET being what you got with
grants and Usenet being what grad students could afford.

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 7:20 PM M Douglas McIlroy &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:m.douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu">m.douglas.mcilroy@dartmout=
h.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Connectivity e=
volved rapidly in the early 1980s. In 1980 I served on the<br>
board of CSNet, which connected have-not CS departments (including Bell<br>
Labs) via dialup and X.25 links onto the periphery of the magic circle<br>
of Arpanet.</blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">I think Steve Bellovin said something about CSNET being what you got=
 with grants and Usenet being what grad students could afford.</div><div di=
r=3D"auto"></div></div>

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