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* [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
@ 2018-10-07  6:07 arnold
  2018-10-07 10:05 ` Lars Brinkhoff
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From: arnold @ 2018-10-07  6:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

Hi All.

I am starting to collect, if possible, different versions of the QED
editor; with a hope to put up a git repo.

If you have a tarball of code, please send it to me with as much info
about it as you have.  I would like to track down the qedbuf(1) man page
also.

I have contacted Rob Pike and got one tarball from him. I have another
tarball that I got sometime in 1987 and have a promise of code coming
Donald Mitchell.

Much thanks!

Arnold

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07  6:07 [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED arnold
@ 2018-10-07 10:05 ` Lars Brinkhoff
  2018-10-07 10:23   ` Arrigo Triulzi
  2018-10-07 12:41 ` Donald ODona
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From: Lars Brinkhoff @ 2018-10-07 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: arnold; +Cc: tuhs

Arnold wrote:
> I am starting to collect, if possible, different versions of the QED
> editor; with a hope to put up a git repo.

Very good!  Editors need preservation too.

Anyone curious about Pratt's ZED aka DOC?

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07 10:05 ` Lars Brinkhoff
@ 2018-10-07 10:23   ` Arrigo Triulzi
  2018-10-07 12:33     ` Donald ODona
  2018-10-07 16:41     ` Jonathan Gevaryahu
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From: Arrigo Triulzi @ 2018-10-07 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Brinkhoff; +Cc: tuhs

> Arnold wrote:
>> I am starting to collect, if possible, different versions of the QED
>> editor; with a hope to put up a git repo.
> 
> Very good!  Editors need preservation too.
> 
> Anyone curious about Pratt's ZED aka DOC?

What was the name of the editor which George Coulouris wrote at Queen Mary College (then Queen Mary and Westfield, now Queen Mary, University of London)? “e”?

Arrigo 

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07 10:23   ` Arrigo Triulzi
@ 2018-10-07 12:33     ` Donald ODona
  2018-10-07 12:46       ` Steve Nickolas
  2018-10-07 12:52       ` Arrigo Triulzi
  2018-10-07 16:41     ` Jonathan Gevaryahu
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From: Donald ODona @ 2018-10-07 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Brinkhoff, arrigo; +Cc: tuhs

At 7 Oct 2018 11:01:11 +0000 (+00:00) from Arrigo Triulzi <a target="_blank"rrigo@alchemistowl.org>:
> What was the name of the editor which George Coulouris wrote at Queen Mary College (then Queen Mary and Westfield, now Queen Mary, University of London)? “e”?
em.  
http://pgas.freeshell.org/C/em/

> Arrigo 

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07  6:07 [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED arnold
  2018-10-07 10:05 ` Lars Brinkhoff
@ 2018-10-07 12:41 ` Donald ODona
  2018-10-07 14:11   ` arnold
  2018-10-07 17:00 ` Lars Brinkhoff
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From: Donald ODona @ 2018-10-07 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs, arnold

At 7 Oct 2018 06:08:57 +0000 (+00:00) from arnold@skeeve.com:
> I have contacted Rob Pike and got one tarball from him. I have another
> tarball that I got sometime in 1987 and have a promise of code coming
> Donald Mitchell.

there is already a git repo at https://github.com/chneukirchen/qed-caltech

Then se, a very ed like screen editor:
http://se-editor.org/
https://github.com/screen-editor/se

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07 12:33     ` Donald ODona
@ 2018-10-07 12:46       ` Steve Nickolas
  2018-10-07 13:20         ` jsteve
  2018-10-07 12:52       ` Arrigo Triulzi
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From: Steve Nickolas @ 2018-10-07 12:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Donald ODona; +Cc: tuhs

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On Sun, 7 Oct 2018, Donald ODona wrote:

> At 7 Oct 2018 11:01:11 +0000 (+00:00) from Arrigo Triulzi <a target="_blank"rrigo@alchemistowl.org>:
>> What was the name of the editor which George Coulouris wrote at Queen Mary College (then Queen Mary and Westfield, now Queen Mary, University of London)? “e”?
> em.
> http://pgas.freeshell.org/C/em/
>
>> Arrigo
>

When I think of "e", I think of IBM's text editor, which I had on one of 
my XTs before it became part of PC DOS 6.1.

-uso.

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07 12:33     ` Donald ODona
  2018-10-07 12:46       ` Steve Nickolas
@ 2018-10-07 12:52       ` Arrigo Triulzi
  2018-10-08 10:18         ` KatolaZ
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From: Arrigo Triulzi @ 2018-10-07 12:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Donald ODona; +Cc: tuhs

On 7 Oct 2018, at 14:33, Donald ODona <mutiny.mutiny@india.com> wrote:
> 
> At 7 Oct 2018 11:01:11 +0000 (+00:00) from Arrigo Triulzi <a target="_blank"rrigo@alchemistowl.org>:
>> What was the name of the editor which George Coulouris wrote at Queen Mary College (then Queen Mary and Westfield, now Queen Mary, University of London)? “e”?
> em.  
> http://pgas.freeshell.org/C/em/

Ah, thank you.

Arrigo


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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07 12:46       ` Steve Nickolas
@ 2018-10-07 13:20         ` jsteve
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From: jsteve @ 2018-10-07 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steve Nickolas, Donald ODona; +Cc: tuhs

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IBM bundled it in with OS/2 Warp.  I forget if the edlin was a family API app.

Now that edlin is MIT licensed I guess it may live on

Sent from my Windows 10 Nokia Lumia 1520

From: Steve Nickolas
Sent: Sunday, 7 October 2018 8:56 PM
To: Donald ODona
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018, Donald ODona wrote:

> At 7 Oct 2018 11:01:11 +0000 (+00:00) from Arrigo Triulzi <a target="_blank"rrigo@alchemistowl.org>:
>> What was the name of the editor which George Coulouris wrote at Queen Mary College (then Queen Mary and Westfield, now Queen Mary, University of London)? “e”?
> em.
> http://pgas.freeshell.org/C/em/
>
>> Arrigo
>

When I think of "e", I think of IBM's text editor, which I had on one of 
my XTs before it became part of PC DOS 6.1.

-uso.


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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07 12:41 ` Donald ODona
@ 2018-10-07 14:11   ` arnold
  2018-10-07 15:41     ` Donald ODona
  2018-10-07 15:52     ` Leah Neukirchen
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From: arnold @ 2018-10-07 14:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs, mutiny.mutiny, arnold

Donald ODona <mutiny.mutiny@india.com> wrote:

> At 7 Oct 2018 06:08:57 +0000 (+00:00) from arnold@skeeve.com:
> > I have contacted Rob Pike and got one tarball from him. I have another
> > tarball that I got sometime in 1987 and have a promise of code coming
> > Donald Mitchell.
>
> there is already a git repo at https://github.com/chneukirchen/qed-caltech

Thanks, I'll take a look at that too.

> Then se, a very ed like screen editor:
> http://se-editor.org/
> https://github.com/screen-editor/se

I'm quite familiar with this. I'm the one who posted the original C version
of se to comp.sources.unix > 30 years ago.  :-)

It's quite ironic. To get se going on Unix I had to learn vi. Then
vi became hardwired into my finger ROMs such that I didn't feel like
going back to using se.

se is derived from the Software Tools Ratfor editor, so it's an ed
clone, not based on Unix ed code.

Arnold

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07 14:11   ` arnold
@ 2018-10-07 15:41     ` Donald ODona
  2018-10-07 15:52     ` Leah Neukirchen
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From: Donald ODona @ 2018-10-07 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: arnold; +Cc: tuhs



At 7 Oct 2018 14:16:56 +0000 (+00:00) from arnold@skeeve.com:
> Donald ODona <mutiny.mutiny@india.com> wrote:
> 
> > At 7 Oct 2018 06:08:57 +0000 (+00:00) from arnold@skeeve.
> It's quite ironic. To get se going on Unix I had to learn vi. Then
> vi became hardwired into my finger ROMs such that I didn't feel like
> going back to using se.
> 
> se is derived from the Software Tools Ratfor editor, so it's an ed
> clone, not based on Unix ed code.
I know that. se has somewhat limited regexp syntax, but otherwise is a nice editor. You'll wonder but I'm still using it occasionally.

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07 14:11   ` arnold
  2018-10-07 15:41     ` Donald ODona
@ 2018-10-07 15:52     ` Leah Neukirchen
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From: Leah Neukirchen @ 2018-10-07 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: arnold; +Cc: tuhs

arnold@skeeve.com writes:

> Donald ODona <mutiny.mutiny@india.com> wrote:
>
>> At 7 Oct 2018 06:08:57 +0000 (+00:00) from arnold@skeeve.com:
>> > I have contacted Rob Pike and got one tarball from him. I have another
>> > tarball that I got sometime in 1987 and have a promise of code coming
>> > Donald Mitchell.
>>
>> there is already a git repo at https://github.com/chneukirchen/qed-caltech
>
> Thanks, I'll take a look at that too.

Yep, that's mine.

I tried contacting David Tilbrook several times and got no replies.

I think some people around Toronto still use qed, but they seem to be
very secretive about it.

hth,
-- 
Leah Neukirchen  <leah@vuxu.org>  http://leah.zone

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07 10:23   ` Arrigo Triulzi
  2018-10-07 12:33     ` Donald ODona
@ 2018-10-07 16:41     ` Jonathan Gevaryahu
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From: Jonathan Gevaryahu @ 2018-10-07 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

On 10/7/2018 6:23 AM, Arrigo Triulzi wrote:
>> Arnold wrote:
>>> I am starting to collect, if possible, different versions of the QED
>>> editor; with a hope to put up a git repo.
>> Very good!  Editors need preservation too.
>>
>> Anyone curious about Pratt's ZED aka DOC?
> What was the name of the editor which George Coulouris wrote at Queen Mary College (then Queen Mary and Westfield, now Queen Mary, University of London)? “e”?
>
> Arrigo
> .
>
I remember when digging for the speak.c/h stuff in the v6_doc disk pack 
image, there were incomplete fragments of an editor (restricted ed? ed?) 
source code in there, earlier than any version of the source code I 
could find at the time, so that might be interesting to dig into as well.

-- 
Jonathan Gevaryahu AKA Lord Nightmare
jgevaryahu@gmail.com
jgevaryahu@hotmail.com


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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07  6:07 [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED arnold
  2018-10-07 10:05 ` Lars Brinkhoff
  2018-10-07 12:41 ` Donald ODona
@ 2018-10-07 17:00 ` Lars Brinkhoff
  2018-10-07 17:11   ` Lars Brinkhoff
  2018-10-08  3:21   ` Lars Brinkhoff
  2018-10-08 19:00 ` Jeremy C. Reed
  2018-10-25  6:56 ` Donald ODona
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From: Lars Brinkhoff @ 2018-10-07 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: arnold; +Cc: tuhs

Arnold wrote:
> I am starting to collect, if possible, different versions of the QED
> editor; with a hope to put up a git repo.

I'm asking around for 940, CTSS, and Multics versions of QED.

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07 17:00 ` Lars Brinkhoff
@ 2018-10-07 17:11   ` Lars Brinkhoff
  2018-10-08  3:21   ` Lars Brinkhoff
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From: Lars Brinkhoff @ 2018-10-07 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: arnold; +Cc: tuhs

> I'm asking around for 940, CTSS, and Multics versions of QED.

CTSS QED is here:

https://github.com/rcornwell/ctss/tree/master/src/edit

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07 17:00 ` Lars Brinkhoff
  2018-10-07 17:11   ` Lars Brinkhoff
@ 2018-10-08  3:21   ` Lars Brinkhoff
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From: Lars Brinkhoff @ 2018-10-08  3:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: arnold; +Cc: tuhs

> I'm asking around for 940, CTSS, and Multics versions of QED.

QED for the 940 timesharing system might appear later.

Multics QEDX:
https://ban.ai/~jhj/misc/qedx/

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
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@ 2018-10-08  3:58 ` Jeffrey H. Johnson
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From: Jeffrey H. Johnson @ 2018-10-08  3:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

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Might as well send this to the list:

There are Multics QEDX sources, but I haven't run across QED - however, there is an overview of it's use and commands in the General Electric June 1969 Multics Condensed Guide (http://bitsavers.org/pdf/honeywell/multics/swenson/6906.multics-condensed-guide.pdf)

I pulled the QEDX source at put it at https://ban.ai/~jhj/misc/qedx/ for easy access - this is the MR12.5 version and last modified in 1989, sadly, I don't ever recall seeing the BCPL QED. [ I'll be sure to remember now if I see it. ]

[ Somewhat off-topic ] How about Yale 'Z' as long as we're talking editors? Or another editor (that I very much like) is the 'G' editor, which has a long history, originating on Honeywell 6000 GCOS/TSS, originally written in B: https://github.com/ascheepe/g-editor - works nicely today. There is also the Ecce editor, which includes versions in IMP, BASIC, C, BCPL, and FORTRAN at http://history.dcs.ed.ac.uk/archive/apps/ecce/ - bringing Ecce up on Multics is an item on my todo list. 

-- Jeff - https://ban.ai/multics/ 

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07 12:52       ` Arrigo Triulzi
@ 2018-10-08 10:18         ` KatolaZ
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From: KatolaZ @ 2018-10-08 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

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On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 02:52:34PM +0200, Arrigo Triulzi wrote:
> On 7 Oct 2018, at 14:33, Donald ODona <mutiny.mutiny@india.com> wrote:
> > 
> > At 7 Oct 2018 11:01:11 +0000 (+00:00) from Arrigo Triulzi <a target="_blank"rrigo@alchemistowl.org>:
> >> What was the name of the editor which George Coulouris wrote at Queen Mary College (then Queen Mary and Westfield, now Queen Mary, University of London)? “e”?
> > em.  
> > http://pgas.freeshell.org/C/em/
> 
> Ah, thank you.
> 

I tried the "modernised" version of em by Pierre Gaston a few months
back, and unfortunately it crashes repreatedly on some em-specific
commands. I shall look deeper, but it would be nice to have a
functioning version... ;)

HND

KatolaZ

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07  6:07 [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED arnold
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-10-07 17:00 ` Lars Brinkhoff
@ 2018-10-08 19:00 ` Jeremy C. Reed
  2018-10-25  6:56 ` Donald ODona
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From: Jeremy C. Reed @ 2018-10-08 19:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: arnold; +Cc: tuhs

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018, arnold@skeeve.com wrote:

> I would like to track down the qedbuf(1) man page also.

Not sure if that is different that qedbufs.1 (with an "s").
It is in two usenix sets:

usenix79+80/boulder/caltech/doc/qedbufs.1
usenix_80_delaware/boulder/caltech/doc/qedbufs.1

https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Applications/Spencer_Tapes/

https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Applications/Shoppa_Tapes/

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
@ 2018-10-10 19:21 Norman Wilson
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From: Norman Wilson @ 2018-10-10 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

Leah Neukirchen:

  I tried contacting David Tilbrook several times and got no replies.

  I think some people around Toronto still use qed, but they seem to be
  very secretive about it.

====

David is likely well-retired by now, but I don't really know.
Even though I walk within a block of his house fairly often,
we've never really been consistently in touch.

But he was responsible for a distinct branch of the qed that
originated at the University of Toronto in the late 1970s
(same one Rob supplied).  Certainly worth tracking down.

I don't know your definitions of `people around Toronto' or
`secretive.'  I still use qed daily; my copy is one I've been
carrying around, and occasionally tweaking, since my time at
Caltech (where I got it from Rob).  I'll send Arnold a copy.
I'm really tired both of having to recompile it (and deal with
yet another bit of obsolete-C assumption that no previous
compiler or C library has shown up) now and then, and with
its private variant of regular expressions, so I keep threatening
(mainly to myself) to rewrite it in Python, but I have no idea
whether I'll ever get around to that.  If I do I suspect I'll
throw away some of the programmability hooks, which I never use,
and perhaps extend it here and there (I really want nesting
globals, and they're not that hard to do--I did them in my
half-baked personal mail reader, which has an ed-like interface).

I don't know offhand of anyone else around Toronto using my
branch of qed.  I do know of a couple of friends in California,
one who left Caltech before I did but is now back there, another
elsewhere in Los Angeles, who still use my version at least
occasionally.  It wouldn't surprise me if there were people
around Toronto who use Tilbrook's branch, since it was part
of his qef toolkit and he introduced several companies to it
when consulting for them; but I don't know of any specifics.

None of which is as archaeologically interesting as the
non-UNIX qeds, of course.

Norman Wilson
Toronto ON

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-07  6:07 [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED arnold
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-10-08 19:00 ` Jeremy C. Reed
@ 2018-10-25  6:56 ` Donald ODona
  2018-10-25 16:09   ` Lars Brinkhoff
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From: Donald ODona @ 2018-10-25  6:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: arnold; +Cc: tuhs

just to mention the strange alien lisp machine, desktop environment, operation system, church of emacs in all known flavors:
https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history

At 7 Oct 2018 06:08:57 +0000 (+00:00) from arnold@skeeve.com:
> Hi All.
> 
> I am starting to collect, if possible, different versions of the QED
> editor; with a hope to put up a git repo.
> 
> If you have a tarball of code, please send it to me with as much info
> about it as you have.  I would like to track down the qedbuf(1) man page
> also.
> 
> I have contacted Rob Pike and got one tarball from him. I have another
> tarball that I got sometime in 1987 and have a promise of code coming
> Donald Mitchell.
> 
> Much thanks!
> 
> Arnold

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-25  6:56 ` Donald ODona
@ 2018-10-25 16:09   ` Lars Brinkhoff
  2018-10-25 21:15     ` Noel Hunt
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From: Lars Brinkhoff @ 2018-10-25 16:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Donald ODona; +Cc: tuhs

Donald ODona wrote:
> just to mention the strange alien lisp machine, desktop environment,
> operation system, church of emacs in all known flavors:
> https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history

Thanks.

Does anyone know what happened to SINE?  Or the MagicSix operating
system for that matter; maybe a sibling to Unix?  (To somehow try to
make this on topic.)

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
  2018-10-25 16:09   ` Lars Brinkhoff
@ 2018-10-25 21:15     ` Noel Hunt
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From: Noel Hunt @ 2018-10-25 21:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lars; +Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society

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In addition to SINE, does anyone know what happened to EINE?



On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 3:10 AM Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> wrote:

> Donald ODona wrote:
> > just to mention the strange alien lisp machine, desktop environment,
> > operation system, church of emacs in all known flavors:
> > https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history
>
> Thanks.
>
> Does anyone know what happened to SINE?  Or the MagicSix operating
> system for that matter; maybe a sibling to Unix?  (To somehow try to
> make this on topic.)
>

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* Re: [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
@ 2018-10-25 22:47 jnc
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From: jnc @ 2018-10-25 22:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs; +Cc: jnc

    > From: Noel Hunt

    > In addition to SINE, does anyone know what happened to EINE?

Was replaced by ZWEI fairly early on.

Zwei
Was
Eine
Initially

Dunno if it still exists on an MIT dump-tape somewhere.

	Noel

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* [TUHS] Software Archeology: QED
@ 2019-02-04 20:53 Christopher Browne
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From: Christopher Browne @ 2019-02-04 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

Sorry to drop in on the thread a bit late, and, strictly speaking, not
(according to headers) connected to the thread; I am well acquainted
with David Tilbrook, who is sadly not doing too well; it is not
surprising that Leah Neukirchen was unable to get a hold of him as he
hasn't been using email for some number of years > 1, and is
definitely not programming.

Hugh Redelmeier and I are looking into trying to do some preservation
of his QEF toolset that included the QED port.

Neither Hugh nor I are ourselves QED users; I'm about 30 years into my
Emacs learning curve, albeit using Remacs (the Rust implementation)
lately, while Hugh maintains JOVE to the extent to which it remains
maintained.  http://www.cs.toronto.edu/pub/hugh/jove-dev/
-- 
When confronted by a difficult problem, solve it by reducing it to the
question, "How would the Lone Ranger handle this?"

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