From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 29048 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2020 02:38:58 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Jun 2020 02:38:58 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B71D09C5E2; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:38:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3A79C24C; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:38:40 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="LBs7Kelx"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 36E379C24C; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:38:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f173.google.com (mail-qt1-f173.google.com [209.85.160.173]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 974E59C246 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:38:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f173.google.com with SMTP id q14so11477931qtr.9 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 19:38:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=lbRTX2jENsvkiBf/QIS27NOpfRc12Pyzgw132V5DGCE=; b=LBs7Kelxuh2/dO+SOLHbyhPDsRTx1SsPeyuvbo5BYrx+V3zP7CEXpXrUH9SkcD2NNi Dxq3pMhiYlj0vqK5YjLiwJdK045CNiLt0TIMymV412WBGOzJ94b+TePuN9nBCqGzbGcG +KryNpmpX3zCfY/RNuXtwHGl1ufIohGsOm+0X1uvDBH1iWSc/N7IgvogSNKllAUCUZoY PicdcprROpo4+DTLJ8kdK3gfJocy3hW9AlvE1AMnVEnV0Z3cAt8qDavB4X1twOu8j1HG kFOUThTmRQyBvBYUGwLqBPiXNJhLIeyo/D99DgZvTCQcsBRTgk9okzVvktxv2SBm2pUp Ex4A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lbRTX2jENsvkiBf/QIS27NOpfRc12Pyzgw132V5DGCE=; b=eymGq5I5pipVPqgFH113SbF2ZX0bT/gho2OzperEu6Izkvim4hsudZ5w4aUmyicY3u +ZN67QqWyomm551WZfVSgrsw8mKukl3LI9dxjCwOnNQJDRk+Pw1G7hnVH6nhZV7cpOp1 3bld9TVU8J5BUv8BnH5ckSCwsnTbCHVGNDEYnEQhvvg1/7KFP8qs8s3pmkOd9wKx7PrQ f3yuX/BSBX29Sfp4exDN8kgwZ3/L+bMVZCDpnF8ybGBHwRIDNiwZ/K1ZimZUxyHKymvZ 0DnbejfAqt4uwm2D/bLOpQ4Dt53J6SXsKzBNuDpJob9hgLR/Vvp/ToaaUmAzgzMi/btW x55g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532rdCOVWaHrnUXmq2S8UBDTSSoWYksFpFa80lFCOTV2FLk2cgi9 9wKS5zsm55sZHNio5KmTGKZcXIvDtqbctVcqhJ5dew== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw2JQpLupfhmT68ehmywoMmOTH2QeSABy8JlQMbZUhCvj6C1ZfoIyl/LewgyK2a7LPA4sFkfc5EmP+Xwb/Gw+0= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:6b85:: with SMTP id z5mr13697167qts.191.1592188716693; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 19:38:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200614225208.GB6122@minnie.tuhs.org> <20200615003113.GF18267@att.net> <20200615003530.GG18267@att.net> <20200615014732.GJ29495@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20200615014732.GJ29495@mcvoy.com> From: Alec Muffett Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 03:38:25 +0100 Message-ID: To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000dfbfaf05a8165207" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Origins and life of the pg pager X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list , Michael Siegel Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000dfbfaf05a8165207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, 02:48 Larry McVoy, wrote: > > Yeah, but nobody used it. pg was not invented here in a nutshell. more(1) > was fine, less(1) was actually an improvement. pg(1) was a shitty also > ran. I thought that the whole point of "pg" was that it was a print system filter; that you integrated it into pipelines to throw proper formfeeds every 66 (etc) lines rather than print over the margins of DECWriters (etc), and that it wasn't really a tool for humans. At least, that's how it was explained to me. -a --000000000000dfbfaf05a8165207 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, 02:48 Larry McVoy, <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:

Yeah, but nobody used it.=C2=A0 pg was not invented here in a nutshell.=C2= =A0 more(1)
was fine, less(1) was actually an improvement.=C2=A0 pg(1) was a shitty als= o ran.

I thought that the whole point of "pg" was that it was a print = system filter; that you integrated it into pipelines to throw proper formfe= eds every 66 (etc) lines rather than print over the margins of DECWriters (= etc), and that it wasn't really a tool for humans.

At least, that's how it was explained to= me.

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