From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24884 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2022 04:39:37 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Jun 2022 04:39:37 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7D0409B6; Mon, 27 Jun 2022 14:39:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-yb1-f180.google.com (mail-yb1-f180.google.com [209.85.219.180]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6013340998 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2022 14:39:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-yb1-f180.google.com with SMTP id x184so11981718ybg.12 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 21:39:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ugNOjd0sDdU2yhTO6TADLG2b8Br8aaQMW9kRVrLmLiM=; b=Rjob4FCR39Kxgm93sf02oFENY1k1A7TGM/3Y0dMnxZe87uRUQGuI+dDTkguoM3UAQh nNpUNrJ0mqtFO9CoCD2xuPXNb+rpWbhdhAA+Fu4cBjj34/ev7oRWaaNDuCH0dVU9jZ1E 4k6GksGuoSEXpbgh/cTZU2uJuJBH/x+C5ZxgyFopSvn+OUj9lE2lYTmxT20Hd2dBX0VQ XVXa06lvgSSF/LMFjKG/+jQ5Qn44haeNXNAwNeCzqTw/lfzaOJDQkZX6t2aJlMum2FUK qx7Hrpim8GqmLl3slSspxI5/cvkFq6qZ8WO2HVxJFCokVOSDoRPkkLX6AM21JMYkPtM0 su3A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ugNOjd0sDdU2yhTO6TADLG2b8Br8aaQMW9kRVrLmLiM=; b=Ui98YCcK2bV4ZIB0S0xHrDNTd5GYscu3JcO9ieGSo/75o4tKGmngeZjP0d3ku0yikh /v8MQlvuHkRFaFTNg8GEZDQ80/nmScEqu5KJtH9ckBVVqayraMQgxK1tKif2Zi69jxTX HgUmbS+7fVVPbeRvu8wBH0XVieGEeny80D2xG1Gyj5dM/g7rT0/OdvhZSZnAk+0juWQi hVP+0bMWdSLh1tP0aBuaEI3S2ou3BvlbLHQ46GNL6qtImBuragGbweF+ahG4PZ478OyW 8pJXoz9bUg5Jz8swbJ0/36DfCKBXKLNYsSCDp8j8wROytvlf1RJ8EBTg1PnOj40CpXI4 LIqg== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora/dRuivsg4u76il8LAMKRup2umh/bMqHnHMQtCPKIi0OA8CQmbQ WZNZygILgLPRYVdxAyfrMr6AhnyuolBv7AiKaHq6Ubb2vk0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1v0ISn2xdFmcjhzuxmHKGgNm5gaWp/c8QhA8Za0yKPJNVIHLXUkmmuZ/eNn0GCRVD3XaW94VB65gYd/KBUgF7c= X-Received: by 2002:a25:be07:0:b0:664:4210:aaf3 with SMTP id h7-20020a25be07000000b006644210aaf3mr11884361ybk.415.1656304689600; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 21:38:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <12D158D7-41B4-41C9-BB68-7DC6C1BBB8FF@canb.auug.org.au> In-Reply-To: <12D158D7-41B4-41C9-BB68-7DC6C1BBB8FF@canb.auug.org.au> From: josh Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 00:37:33 -0400 Message-ID: To: steve jenkin Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a9df5705e2667cdc" Message-ID-Hash: RVT3SOL3ZOU5F7HVJJQ75ZVBC7IKVHLY X-Message-ID-Hash: RVT3SOL3ZOU5F7HVJJQ75ZVBC7IKVHLY X-MailFrom: joshnatis0@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: TUHS X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Clem's Law. List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000a9df5705e2667cdc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Clem Cole wrote: > My own take on this is what I call "Cole's Law" Simple economics > always beats sophisticated architecture. Cole's Law is a bit of a better name than Clem's Law :P. Clem has invoked his law on this mailing list in various contexts, check out the archives. Josh On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 11:58 PM steve jenkin wrote: > I thought this comment was very good. > > I went looking for =E2=80=9CClem=E2=80=99s Law=E2=80=9D (presume Clem Col= e) and struck out. > > Any hints anyone can suggest or history on the comment? > > steve j > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > Larry McVoy wrote Fri Sep 17 10:44:25 AEST 2021 > > > Plan 9 is very cool but I am channeling my inner Clem, > Plan 9 didn't meet Clem's law. > It was never compelling enough to make the masses love it. > Linux was good enough. > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > -- > Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design > 0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915) > PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA > > mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin > > --000000000000a9df5705e2667cdc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote: > My own take on this is what I call "Cole= 's Law" Simple economics
> always beats sophisticated architecture.

Cole= 's Law is a bit of a better name than Clem's Law :P. Clem has
in= voked his law on this mailing list in various contexts, check out
the ar= chives.

Josh

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at = 11:58 PM steve jenkin <sjenk= in@canb.auug.org.au> wrote:
I thought this comment was very good.

I went looking for =E2=80=9CClem=E2=80=99s Law=E2=80=9D (presume Clem Cole)= and struck out.

Any hints anyone can suggest or history on the comment?

steve j

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Larry McVoy wrote Fri Sep 17 10:44:25 AEST 2021
<https://minnie.tuhs.org/piperma= il/tuhs/2021-September/024424.html>

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Plan 9 is very cool but I am channeling my inne= r Clem,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Plan 9 didn't meet Clem's law.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 It was never compelling enough to make the mass= es love it.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Linux was good enough.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design
0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915)
PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA

mailto:sjenki= n@canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin
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