From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5930 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2023 00:10:20 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Mar 2023 00:10:20 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E342041365; Mon, 20 Mar 2023 10:10:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ed1-x52c.google.com (mail-ed1-x52c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52c]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E32DF4135E for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2023 10:10:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ed1-x52c.google.com with SMTP id r11so40513340edd.5 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2023 17:10:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1679271009; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=LEtxSlG7UNnmiQnPrbr1csJGGG/WwcPGJ0KNh9kdmBc=; b=OOxazyf7c2ZkRmjS6tbal86ACTCaZ/xCiiESfnrBAGKKw00bJdo1ysKqpeZMnA3woY 6WW2YI+CNN0AWMJdSff7+M6AEJfOi5ivEKAQqKg8T+/pzHv90WJj4s5QT0BhEqlLWTSF 0lh3U2YfpwVHGa5wLxzr+Mrx64pbsQoY2LzJ1Nh1QpFhaSjNyLlngbnvrgDZpWXBV+qJ ovqWRjw9Y9LptwGjyuV8DnR6E/MnaBVAqyKm5j8YmLBK4cEksYJBQYmHeQxrQ0MNY2HL nOOSwJBEY702IRjNQHCQ5M72/VIxQphhpZfnIaYQo1T4fqzn1cUQZdMz9Hd0GNq5d2U4 52FA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1679271009; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=LEtxSlG7UNnmiQnPrbr1csJGGG/WwcPGJ0KNh9kdmBc=; b=eqHizaspQUlIc1im/UxFD9O0fJflgNCAO+xwdBSywNgyQRetU78n5ZcpdOouzbcU/m 8S1A7SdBSVJzh44VPLY7t4N90wjIACUPUd1el9ns05uAVjnEzQV1JFufZl5t62xG9ame 0qQ0H62hcHXJtNx+RUZ+vw/4nfqH5Rh89hCQi4C/8hbWiD5zlksg/T7IH46fF5vb15fM pWZEjhgo77y2YhYx6dQgAXy5Ev9b1tt6iovApaBJqIpJ+4KX0jcbzzRwcUcpM5CCUNB4 wr942FQQuKnH6loCx8yaS/ruS0KLDZEVqL3+jKws07cSgqSs0ClFRPs0M+FchcSrDgFf Bqug== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKXJAdCQQm809jKyRQbEa4iS3hK9MErRtXMYClzAjlcKJ1FkMIt2 Mnmj9iEfQYGxdpXEyQTkiiffISnTZTs1Vrd3e/LRno9Wnmk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set/OgvkauwMoT4NTD6jlVr7utUdY+jWltD1MQaimlU1X7NDuDgE9UzKmIA2L2ptcHwIoPD4t9OaC08vgRWqDh44= X-Received: by 2002:a50:8e02:0:b0:4fa:ff23:a87a with SMTP id 2-20020a508e02000000b004faff23a87amr5436673edw.5.1679271009160; Sun, 19 Mar 2023 17:10:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Michael Huff Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 16:09:56 -0800 Message-ID: To: Henry Bent Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fb936a05f749bf50" Message-ID-Hash: HKPARFVLUKBIX2MC2GDQTTYWBJ565DCX X-Message-ID-Hash: HKPARFVLUKBIX2MC2GDQTTYWBJ565DCX X-MailFrom: mphuff@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: UNIX TUHS Group X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Vax-780 with unix 2.0v2 gdts questions List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000fb936a05f749bf50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 3:45=E2=80=AFPM Michael Huff wro= te: > > On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 3:23=E2=80=AFPM Henry Bent wrote: > >> On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 at 18:56, Michael Huff wrote: >> >>> I think I may have found 2.0 on the Internet Archive too. >>> https://archive.org/details/cdrom-freebsd-2.0-1 >>> >>> The dates on the iso are from late November 1994. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 2:14=E2=80=AFPM Warner Losh wr= ote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023, 3:21 PM Michael Huff wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 5:46=E2=80=AFAM Henry Bent >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Where did you get this distribution? The one I could easily find, >>>>>> https://archive.org/details/vax-svr2 , has serious filesystem >>>>>> problems that can easily be seen by running an fsck on boot. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Speaking of Unix History, following that link led me to a copy of wha= t >>>>> I think was the first 4.4BSD-Lite based FreeBSD iso -it's from June 1= 995. >>>>> No big deal *except* that it includes a scan of the cover, something = that >>>>> looks like an insert and it consists of two cds. I haven't had a chan= ce to >>>>> look at the cds yet so I don't know what's on them. >>>>> >>>>> IMO the scans are the big deal and why I'm posting the link to it >>>>> here. Apologies in advance for any lapses in etiquette: >>>>> >>>>> https://archive.org/details/freebsd-205-b >>>>> >>>> >>>> FreeBSD 2.0.0 was the first Lite based release. This looks to be 2.0.5 >>>> which was a 7 months later. >>>> >>>> https://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases has >>>> all the old releases from 2.0.5 on... >>>> >>>> Hmmm I think I have the 2.0 cdrom in my basement... >>>> >>>> Warner >>>> >>> >> These are just the regular Walnut Creek ( >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walnut_Creek_CDROM ) packaged >> distributions of free software. Is there a reason that they are conside= red >> special or significant? >> >> -Henry >> > > Yes. I posted the first one because it included a scan of the packaging > and an insert (which I don't think you can find on the FreeBSD archive > -though I haven't looked), I posted a link to the second one because it > pre-dates the earliest ISO on the FreeBSD archive (2.0 instead of 2.0.5). > > I thought people would be interested in the first link as an interesting > curiosity, and the second one was for any software completists. > > -Michael > I just realized that I may not have exactly answered your question, because I was assuming that you caught the mention of "Lite" in the thread. My apologies for that assumption. "Lite" refers to 4.4BSD-Lite, the 2nd to the last release of BSD from the CSRG (Lite2 would be the last). FreeBSD versions 1.x are (in my opinion) relevant to TUHS because of their links to 386BSD and Net/2, FreeBSD 2.0(.5) were the first releases to incorporate the code from 4.4BSD as well as being the first to be declared "legal" -ie free of AT&T code. Hopefully these links give additional context to what may have appeared to be random postings of software archives. ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Berkeley_Software_Distribution= #4.4BSD_and_descendants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD_version_history#FreeBSD_2 --000000000000fb936a05f749bf50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 3:45=E2=80=AFPM Michael Huff <mphuff@gmail.com> wrote:
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= On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 3:23=E2=80=AFPM Henry Bent <henry.r.bent@gmail.com> wrot= e:
On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 at 18:56, Michael Huff <mphuff@gmail.com> wro= te:
I think I may have found 2.0 on the Intern= et Archive too.

The dates on the iso are from late Nove= mber 1994.


On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 2:14=E2=80=AFPM Warn= er Losh <imp@bsdimp.= com> wrote:


On Sun, Mar 19, 2023, 3:21 PM Michael Huff <mphuff@gmail.com> = wrote:
O= n Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 5:46=E2=80=AFAM Henry Bent <henry.r.bent@gmai= l.com> wrote:

Where did you get= this distribution?=C2=A0 The one I could easily find, https://a= rchive.org/details/vax-svr2 , has serious filesystem problems that can = easily be seen by running an fsck on boot.

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Speaking of Unix History, following that link led m= e to a copy of what I think was the first 4.4BSD-Lite based FreeBSD iso -it= 's from June 1995. No big deal *except* that it includes a scan of the = cover, something that looks like an insert and it consists of two cds. I ha= ven't had a chance to look at the cds yet so I don't know what'= s on them.

IMO the scans are the big deal and= why I'm posting the link to it here. Apologies in advance for any laps= es in etiquette:
=C2=A0

FreeBSD 2.0.0 was the first= Lite based release. This looks to be 2.0.5 which was a 7 months later.

https:/= /ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases has all the o= ld releases from 2.0.5 on...

Hmmm I think I have the 2.0 cdrom in my basement...

Warner

These are just the regular Walnut Creek ( h= ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walnut_Creek_CDROM ) packaged distribution= s of free software.=C2=A0 Is there a reason that they are considered specia= l or significant?

-Henry

Yes. I posted the first one because it include= d a scan of the packaging and an insert (which I don't think you can find on the= =20 FreeBSD archive -though I haven't looked), I posted a link to the secon= d one because it pre-dates the earliest ISO on the FreeBSD archive (2.0 ins= tead of 2.0.5).

I thought people would be interest= ed in the first link as an interesting curiosity, and the second one was fo= r any software completists.

-Michael

I just realized that I may not have exactly answered your question, because I was assuming that you caught the mention of "Lite" in = the=20 thread. My apologies for that assumption.

&quo= t;Lite" refers to 4.4BSD-Lite, the 2nd to the last release of BSD from the CSRG (Lite2 would be the last). FreeBSD versions 1.x are (in my opinion)=20 relevant to TUHS because of their links to 386BSD and Net/2, FreeBSD=20 2.0(.5) were the first releases to incorporate the code from 4.4BSD as=20 well as being the first to be declared "legal" -ie free of AT&= ;T=20 code.

Hopefully these links give additional contex= t to what may have appeared to be random postings of software archives. ;) =

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