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Tue, 27 Nov 2018 20:48:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a9d:7306:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 20:48:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20181128025739.GA5701@mcvoy.com> References: <20181128025739.GA5701@mcvoy.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 20:48:52 -0800 Message-ID: To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] In Memoriam: J.F.Ossanna X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Ken Thompson via TUHS Reply-To: Ken Thompson Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" another joe: echo 1 was a 100 foot balloon that was launched into space in the early 60s. this was the first satellite that was easily visible to the naked eye. joe wrote a set of fortran programs that tracked the orbit of echo and calculated the direction to look from a point on earth. to do this, he had to learn fortran and orbital dynamics. the programs were used to point antennas to send emf from california. bouncing off echo and received at bell labs in new jersey. thus, thanks to joe, echo was the first communications satellite. by the time i came to bell labs (1966) the program, azel, for azimuth/elevation, was expanded to track planets, moons, satellites, etc. moreover, it tracked the shadow of the earth cast by the sun (night). it could predict within a few seconds when echo would wink on or off as it passed through the shadow. a version of azel was maintained all the time i was at bell labs. we used it to predict eclipses, transits, occultations etc. when we first got a voice synthesizer, the day's predictions were spoken at 5pm in case there was anything interesting. anyway, at 5pm on june 8, 1983 the voice announced an "occultation of mercury" for early the next morning. no one had heard of such a thing. it was extremely rare. mercury had to be at about its max elongation; the moon had to be only a few hours old (or young); it had to be dark; the moon and mercury had to be above the horizon; and lastly, the moon had to occult mercury. we all (me, lee mcmahon, dennis ritchie, rob pike, and bob morris) frantically tried to verify that it was real. it was, but it would only be about 5 degrees above the horizon facing right into new york city. not a chance. we all went home. later that night we were writing to each other and calculating that in an airplane at 10,000 feet, the event moved up to 10 or 15 degrees above the horizon. also, in an airplane, we could avoid nyc. so at 3am, we (me, rob pike, rae mclellan) went to the airport equipped with cameras and binoculars. we flew north as high as the plane would go. we might be the only people in the world who have seen an occultation of mercury. thank you joe. On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 6:57 PM, Larry McVoy wrote: > As a long time roff fan (I still use it, yes, I've learned LaTex, I much > prefer roff), I'm hugely bummed that Joe left us so early. I feel like > there would be more fun stories, like Ken's story. > > If I remember correctly, he wrote the first (Unix *) version of roff in > PDP-11 assembly, right? Granted, PDP-11 assembly is perhaps the most > pleasant assembly ever, but it is still assembly. Roff is a non-trivial > program, I can't say that I've every written anything remotely that big > in assembly (the only thing I'm proud of is writing swtch() in VAX, 68K, > and some other CPU that I can't remember, but that was tiny, hard to get > right, but tiny). I've got mad respect for what he did, I feel like the > whole roff thing doesn't get enough respect. It wasn't just roff, though > that started it, it was pic (I *love* pic), eqn, all the other filters > that go down to roff. For lmbench I wrote my own grap like tools > because grap wasn't open source. > > I was talking to Marc Donner, a Morgan Stanley techy (since moved on > to google and who knows where) about why I liked roff. At the time > I had built webroff which took roff -ms input and made websites. > Marc pointed out that the reason I liked roff was, for the most part, > it didn't say how to do something (that was buried in the macros), > it said what you wanted to do. > > Ken, if you have more Joe stories I'd love to hear them, I feel like > I missed out on a cool person. > > (*) I know that nroff was "new run off" and it came from somewhere, > MIT? Some old system, but it wasn't invented in Unix. That said, > I've never seen docs for the previous system and I kinda think Joe > took it to the next level. If you haven't studied the docs and > written macros, you should. It's a pretty neat system. > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 03:08:36PM -0800, Ken Thompson via TUHS wrote: >> joe was much more than that. he knew how >> to play the system. example: >> out of whole cloth, he invented a form to >> order a teletype and opx (bell labs extension) >> installed in the home. he then filled out the >> form for each of the unix-room dennisons. >> there was a phone call from a confused >> clerk, and then we all got teletypes and >> data sets at home. as an aside, the opx >> came with free watts (long distance which >> was very expensive in those days.) >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Dave Horsfall wrote: >> > We lost J.F. Ossanna on this day in 1977; he had a hand in developing Unix, >> > and was responsible for "roff" and its descendants. Remember him, the next >> > time you see "jfo" in Unix documentation. >> > >> > -- Dave > > -- > --- > Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm