From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6866 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2022 03:29:03 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Feb 2022 03:29:03 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5D54C9BD0F; Fri, 4 Feb 2022 13:29:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716B195129; Fri, 4 Feb 2022 13:28:33 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="qLWAA4Bz"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8A1D095129; Fri, 4 Feb 2022 13:28:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ua1-f45.google.com (mail-ua1-f45.google.com [209.85.222.45]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CEA39510A for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2022 13:28:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ua1-f45.google.com with SMTP id 60so8835896uae.1 for ; Thu, 03 Feb 2022 19:28:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=AXJQ1V3BQyVYIC90llNj6AhmzdRPAwFWUrRkrU8ChCI=; b=qLWAA4BzLoeoARa5fHIUARpN6HlfL4N12m+ly4BPeccOmtEB7jx9qnrUQf11iXDDUy tTCyXk3uH/pU7zyW6DunBVFF4j45MvDIMi1qIfuNVQdK3PLjDCIuQiUsyMZ1nocAoSwH MwuU3UGuxEqVjhD9Dq04kBVYBnuq0vJ3r7bRh8TgT335f36Q60T/OqWXEPPn4mn3H8r6 SEU6HXP0WXOSceSeHizHtaWc9wqHNBjlKGTd7sECGUuGPs3XO3OQzJ5E+T+YXdUx2CYO 4UcCyNy0hf2tmUnUySmHRxgozmJ5wJxqF+EPMlMzIu+G5eXMBJF+yoZHluJz9NieK0eV SKHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=AXJQ1V3BQyVYIC90llNj6AhmzdRPAwFWUrRkrU8ChCI=; b=62wPSJBt7hjLAPZrzYRvjRfqG8MOzPYXzdj1PvSbWBak0+JqOc5ab9mzKqfys6lp0U 8//e4mg8xOB5zqeD7jBx+SNnGRwDrKO9SXiId+4greKiPnnixeQtLWMCKMhKpgv6xp43 ljPGKntMkLsX1XEYdgwbLowluLELTvTYy2RJh6H1m5ox8HlXqsl7eU6Fgd6Tntj9qFeg qeUBO1zSoka2tMwvR/pQn906iDN5oxRJ7ZEoW9vVabcZMYk1OBukB7a+1/9u98qYbLfJ ZXZ5Xp2QrPG+RJYHGdcY+iFsZ/1XyawWBLPgi2qbRugTx3RNOL68ElNF/mSyz6OKQShv J3YQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532sgQQDfaD6RPab8Px87BUB5tCfGTCCl2s6anfFVmazj2sWZTah J5qh7V2Acnu2s4jFQGhLrP4q1sHkOiISHMMDfuY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyXBM7fmK0cCwOAsMMNEbJgZQ6qMQQlgsKprjcA2h2BDXC5FZ0LLRMcDqKI3P/6ULVOMdN4YEwH7rLuERvEq5I= X-Received: by 2002:a67:fc52:: with SMTP id p18mr243048vsq.67.1643945308840; Thu, 03 Feb 2022 19:28:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202202011537.211FbYSe017204@freefriends.org> <20220201155225.5A9541FB21@orac.inputplus.co.uk> <202202020747.2127lTTh005669@freefriends.org> <7C19F93B-4F21-4BB1-A064-0307D3568DB7@cfcl.com> <1nFWmo-1Gn-00@marmaro.de> In-Reply-To: From: Dan Stromberg Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 19:28:17 -0800 Message-ID: To: Adam Thornton Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000029e5f105d728d841" Subject: Re: [TUHS] more about Brian... X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000029e5f105d728d841 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 6:25 PM Adam Thornton wrote: > It feels like the tide has turned from Go to Rust. I speak Go relatively > fluently but have never used Rust in anger. Do the august personages on > this > list have opinions about Rust? People who generally have tastes consonant > with mine tell me I'd like Rust. > > Although a bit outdated, I stand by what I wrote about Go several (six?) > years ago: https://athornton.github.io/go-it-mostly-doesnt-suck > I think Rust brings something new and interesting to language design. Databases like to have many readers or a single writer for a given piece of data. Rust takes this idea and makes it part of the language. It also manages to be largely memory-leak free, without a garbage collector. And it still allows you to shoot your foot off if you really want to. But there's a hoop to jump through first, which, I think, is how it should be. --00000000000029e5f105d728d841 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 6:25 PM Adam Thorn= ton <athornton@gmail.com> = wrote:
It feels like the tide has turned from Go to Rust.=C2=A0 I sp= eak Go relatively fluently but have never used Rust in anger.=C2=A0 Do the = august personages on this
list have opinions about Rust?=C2= =A0 People who generally have tastes consonant with mine tell me I'd li= ke Rust.

Although a bit outdated, I stand by what = I wrote about Go several (six?) years ago: https://athornton.github= .io/go-it-mostly-doesnt-suck

I think Rust brings something new and interesting to language design.

Databases like to have many readers or a single write= r for a given piece of data.=C2=A0 Rust takes this idea and makes it part o= f the language.

It also manages to be largely memo= ry-leak free, without a garbage collector.

And it = still allows you to shoot your foot off if you really want to.=C2=A0 But th= ere's a hoop to jump through first, which, I think, is how it should be= .

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