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From: Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com>
To: "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Proliferation of options is great simplification of pipes, really?
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 20:32:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGGBd_r4G+SOitsYYE=+ut_73SOMC5NCWHKkbUYrgh3Y=_q54w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210222033217.dkqavclp22sa77ln@localhost.localdomain>

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On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 7:33 PM G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robinson@gmai

>
> > The groff program allows to control the whole groff system by command
> > line options. This is a great simplification in comparison to the
> > classical case (which uses pipes only).
>
> What strikes _me_ about the above is the awful Denglish in it.  I fixed
> this back in 2017 and the correction shipped as part of groff 1.22.4 in
> December 2018.
>
I like the easy composability of pipes, but I don't mind some options.

I don't like the huge, all-purpose applications called web browsers nearly
as much.  They strike me as Very un-unixy.  But much can be justified by
not having to get users to download a client application, and not having to
get sysadmins to punch a hole through their firewalls.

I'd say it's neither, and reflects (1) the limitations of the Unix
> filter model, or at least the linear topology of Unix pipelines[1]
>
I don't think they have to be linear:
http://joeyh.name/code/moreutils/ (see the unfortunately-named "pee"
utility)
and:
https://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/mtee.html

Full disclosure: I wrote mtee.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-22  4:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-22  2:34 Will Senn
2021-02-22  3:32 ` G. Branden Robinson
2021-02-22  4:32   ` Dan Stromberg [this message]
2021-02-22  4:34   ` Will Senn
2021-02-22  5:45     ` G. Branden Robinson
2021-02-22 15:49   ` John P. Linderman
2021-02-22 15:57     ` William Cheswick
2021-02-22 16:03       ` John P. Linderman
2021-02-22 21:16         ` G. Branden Robinson
2021-02-22 16:02     ` Warner Losh
2021-02-22 16:12     ` Robert Clausecker
2021-02-22 17:15       ` John Cowan
2021-02-23  0:24       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-02-22 21:14     ` G. Branden Robinson
2021-02-22  7:20 ` Rich Morin
2021-02-22 18:27 ` Jon Steinhart
2021-02-22 19:30   ` Richard Salz
2021-02-23  2:47 M Douglas McIlroy
2021-02-23 10:42 ` Jaap Akkerhuis
2021-02-23 13:23   ` Brantley Coile
2021-02-23 13:49 ` Ralph Corderoy
2021-02-23 15:04 Steve Simon
2021-02-24  2:42 ` M Douglas McIlroy
2021-02-24 19:38 Norman Wilson

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