From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 29880 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2021 20:48:02 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 17 Nov 2021 20:48:02 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 075A89C8BC; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 06:47:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD06D9C83D; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 06:47:04 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="p1rRyI2+"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 45FC89C2E5; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 06:47:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ua1-f49.google.com (mail-ua1-f49.google.com [209.85.222.49]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA7AF9C29F for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 06:47:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ua1-f49.google.com with SMTP id ay21so8732752uab.12 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 12:47:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=EGsyXixxc4B1FwD2Zqn9ABpeDfb6Y5yGsbbn6EGg34E=; b=p1rRyI2+emD7znHUPTAyCSbpCieUCnejbK5pMkI83B5f1UoQCrC9mlHAq3vtbfEo/b fdqjwidDMHPlxDdkykK40JDJjY5Psy9Fhjj5LA9fH+L2Gwa7zuQ1KoEM5m7Bvr6svITm 9fHr+g++crt9oByyne0zZPOVTM+3Cps1pjZN/vd4JP8e/6YFX/djnyKQLvGONW5cvpXu 6kYPSwh5ar+TSN6vZklcD9jojFYRIom3dpz4aFyvhh+ua+XnRSakop9h7wokFl8F+aCb qg+2HUSW+aRrNvUR27wBquuxLPcfZqdkd6gDwPjjb5v+idH7ZMRMSfHWe5Zxh0+kHeL3 cMvg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=EGsyXixxc4B1FwD2Zqn9ABpeDfb6Y5yGsbbn6EGg34E=; b=ujCq+IwnlCk0WgrY6kn/2+ssWBKL0uuiV3QEFq24dX+Ef16f8E9dVVi9ZRpEVcGWhr kEXx2Us21wlc8Vf1JwG0ba1cR9sY9fUeFulQXLag3YjMCaGQee1EPQwBvFmbPX64sWxs TZ9yDta8Q9iHWK7sini+e0U71IRcCDbIZlTi+rN0svzHy7GfNVms0wWae9rKAd0PQ63P H9Ak/bDMDMFv55F8qe4K5TX6Vh6yZeLVHLq3vu1ZT56tD+5Q0vCOONat5pgEW/KoY8FV LHOYrsy7FLhTsWKTj+zj/5KcfiJuzcSRCAfY8KgslxEX2whOnUDrZy1SP+QE9dXG3hGf I80g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530pa1Wr0fguNGX2EOBfhDpkZ4j1IlhsOwKEbrkFmUqFsKYtGFFa c+mwpAKOYz8qkOlcE/jkdQqvwmnem2oFwtAqxwOZha5b X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzwCz3ddb6/4Cz39IcmMsqLHfltR89oHG9yG1Gd35uJlyrASnXDtyGQfy75SuTTlp/6BdhX8c/5GJ62xGot5LY= X-Received: by 2002:a9f:31a9:: with SMTP id v38mr27520273uad.117.1637182020742; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 12:47:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202111161754.1AGHsGsN929905@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <50F3E958-F0A4-4895-B1BC-41A2644A074A@oclsc.org> In-Reply-To: <50F3E958-F0A4-4895-B1BC-41A2644A074A@oclsc.org> From: Dan Stromberg Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 12:46:49 -0800 Message-ID: To: Norman Wilson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c7708a05d1022479" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Book Recommendation [ reallly inscrutable languages ] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000c7708a05d1022479 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 11:35 AM Norman Wilson wrote: > Wasn't Perl created to fill this void? > > Void? I thought Perl was created to fill a much-needed gap. > There was and is a need for something to sit between Shell and C. But it needn't be filled by Perl. The chief problem with Perl, as I see it, is it's like 10 languages smashed together. To write it, you only need to know one of the 10. But to read it, you never know what subset you're going to see until you're deep in the code. Perl is the victim of an experiment in exuberant, Opensource design, where the bar to adding a new feature was troublingly low. It was undeniably influential. --000000000000c7708a05d1022479 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 11:35 AM Norman W= ilson <norman@oclsc.org> wrot= e:
= Wasn't Perl created to fill this void?

Void? I thought Perl was= created to fill a much-needed gap.
There was an= d is a need for something to sit between Shell and C.=C2=A0 But it needn= 9;t be filled by Perl.

The chief problem with Perl= , as I see it, is it's like 10 languages smashed together.=C2=A0 To wri= te it, you only need to know one of the 10.=C2=A0 But to read it, you never= know what subset you're going to see until you're deep in the code= .

Perl is the victim of an experiment in exuberant= , Opensource design, where the bar to adding a new feature was troublingly = low.

It was undeniably influential.

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