From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id da8b731b for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 20:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id AB68C9C155; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 06:01:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519DB9C11C; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 06:00:44 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="TmFfxx3r"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0DBD99C11C; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 06:00:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-il1-f182.google.com (mail-il1-f182.google.com [209.85.166.182]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 582069C10B for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 06:00:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-il1-f182.google.com with SMTP id s15so25626435iln.1 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:00:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=3Kd8YIm8Xp9iQens/nLadgmIdg0U855NnHEww0QMN6U=; b=TmFfxx3rOH8WaB2fwjLHOAxAJlm91el8LscBJb37p08z/n0ktz+ZBsPtirj61tqggK 77a3oemYg+3qLl8oUHcV9Dze+QTwZzjiQ6+f3h9T2x5LWqaLBrVu3aEjUzFhHOSzzYEJ AoPcokCGkWcRqijFXrs8iipQhIZM0T8PLjaHgRnLljTPk4Dd/4/Zy6ep+EtIdfunivFU 63D6AqBZ3PEyYTeP7DUIbbAkG72TDYQuxGZ/adFA6FK9ubOlhJFXru2zyqO6mVTdo/L5 EIUprlmPCvCpYEnnq8T+Ikb4KeJE5IvzpqUs5Ql8JXJvlkbd5bpcOcOBZl2RRKntywcT wS9Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=3Kd8YIm8Xp9iQens/nLadgmIdg0U855NnHEww0QMN6U=; b=K4dVbLzFKbR9EZ3BtEIa73gGnSoG1l+kOlIS/GflV2OmHdaNACqfn6/CLpOsGPRyUR 2kPrVGCfpeIHbKycqfiSxuOwOwPB2QqoZ+zDmdmLql3dRNsmNl8Q6YD+gH4vgYG9vj82 tUjaxMhYUZfycStgH/gmhvRCcCJGNPg6otTbHiNfvhnc0DEG4eHd4qHt8iiF5PNjTbno +XSah8WKaUBqz4Yh0Rkhx72oqAUqj1sct6QVXswmnVBOCYCcfQI8wWR5IB2SdmvqB5hD NJ7yFTC6pjt3j579KXW/s6gTEGP4mfhpKSAbNpRL48zBj9lA/zKm98ADKYvUSb3J4Dap lHZw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXFehs3JIqafPQz3RZH/0/MWIPyxMBJJ/O2frWyGX7xq/NPbkMO KY/uevoZphjGjKQvpXe18hBIDkQJIWsZtfXhNh4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxaPynCzKX4i1gTkQkF0EUkDlkQJo999TTA9GEivswwfOVV7hZX634ELIJVQcOZxGtek5dLZm6lvBfBd1vG7VA= X-Received: by 2002:a92:cb89:: with SMTP id z9mr7891018ilo.145.1579464039641; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:00:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5A5107E4-06AD-4C2B-B590-15C17B301D44@cfcl.com> <20200118203422.2c7o_%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <20200118203422.2c7o_%steffen@sdaoden.eu> From: Kathryn Spiers Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:00:27 -0800 Message-ID: To: Rich Morin , TUHS main list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000004b644059c83a1d7" Subject: Re: [TUHS] "What UNIX Cost Us" X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000004b644059c83a1d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, Jan 18, 2020, 12:35 Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > Rich Morin wrote in <5A5107E4-06AD-4C2B-B590-15C17B301D44@cfcl.com>: > |FWIW, I found this talk to be quite amusing and interesting. > | > |"What UNIX Cost Us" - Benno Rice (LCA 2020) > |https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-IWMbJXoLM > > That is the one who mutilated the FreeBSD fortune program no? > (Despite it saying > > The potentially offensive fortunes are installed by default on FreeBSD > systems. If you're absolutely, *positively*, without-a-shadow-of-a-doubt > sure that your user community goes berzerk/sues your pants off/drops dead > upon reading one of them, edit the Makefile in the subdirectory datfiles, > and do "make all install".) > > Nothing but a hollow lie ever since! > > --steffen > | > |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, > |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one > |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off > |(By Robert Gernhardt) > Or you could remove the offensive fortunes and make the default more friendly for everyone... Probably best not to re-litigate that change on this thread though. -K > --00000000000004b644059c83a1d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Jan 18, 2020, 12:35 Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaod= en.eu> wrote:
Rich Morin wro= te in <5A5107E4-06AD-4C2B-B590-15C= 17B301D44@cfcl.com>:
=C2=A0|FWIW, I found this talk to be quite amusing and interesting.
=C2=A0|
=C2=A0|"What UNIX Cost Us" - Benno Rice (LCA 2020)
=C2=A0|https://www.youtube.com/wa= tch?v=3D9-IWMbJXoLM

That is the one who mutilated the FreeBSD fortune program no?
(Despite it saying

=C2=A0 The potentially offensive fortunes are installed by default on FreeB= SD
=C2=A0 systems.=C2=A0 If you're absolutely, *positively*, without-a-sha= dow-of-a-doubt
=C2=A0 sure that your user community goes berzerk/sues your pants off/drops= dead
=C2=A0 upon reading one of them, edit the Makefile in the subdirectory datf= iles,
=C2=A0 and do "make all install".)

Nothing but a hollow lie ever since!

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The= moon bear,
|der holt sich munter=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0he cheerfully= and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter=C2=A0 wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

Or you could remove the offensive fortunes and make the default= more friendly for everyone...

P= robably best not to re-litigate that change on this thread though.
-K
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