[TUHS] the origin of dotfiles

[TUHS] the origin of dotfiles

[Kuroishi Mitsuo]

Hi. Just FYI.

It's an interesting article about the origin of dotfiles.

https://plus.google.com/101960720994009339267/posts/R58WgWwN9jp

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Kuroishi Mitsuo

[TUHS] the origin of dotfiles

[Jason Hellenthal]

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 02:13:00PM +0900, Kuroishi Mitsuo wrote:
> 
> Hi. Just FYI.
> 
> It's an interesting article about the origin of dotfiles.
> 
> https://plus.google.com/101960720994009339267/posts/R58WgWwN9jp
> 

With all due respect to Rob Pike, I really do not find it all that
interesting. .files being no different than any other file other than
not being displayed in a listing ? it seriously makes utterly no
difference other than the human PoV. Just because "We did it in Plan 9"
does mean squat other than "We did it differently".

$ ls -A |grep ^\\. |wc -l
     108

     All of which I know how they got there and why they are there.


You have to keep in mind that the old UNIX systems did not have all the
crap that has evolved today for "Desktop" use and programmers in any
given situation will leverage all aspects available in any environment
to achieve a goal, just as Plan 9 does.


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[TUHS] the origin of dotfiles

[Ori Idan]

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal at dataix.net>wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 02:13:00PM +0900, Kuroishi Mitsuo wrote:
> >
> > Hi. Just FYI.
> >
> > It's an interesting article about the origin of dotfiles.
> >
> > https://plus.google.com/101960720994009339267/posts/R58WgWwN9jp
> >
>
> With all due respect to Rob Pike, I really do not find it all that
> interesting. .files being no different than any other file other than
> not being displayed in a listing ? it seriously makes utterly no
> difference other than the human PoV. Just because "We did it in Plan 9"
> does mean squat other than "We did it differently".
>
> $ ls -A |grep ^\\. |wc -l
>      108
>
>      All of which I know how they got there and why they are there.
>
>
> You have to keep in mind that the old UNIX systems did not have all the
> crap that has evolved today for "Desktop" use and programmers in any
> given situation will leverage all aspects available in any environment
> to achieve a goal, just as Plan 9 does.
>
>
> Just out of curiosity, how does plan 9 handles it?
Are there hidden files there? I am sure there are but how are they handled?

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[TUHS] the origin of dotfiles

[sl]

> Just out of curiosity, how does plan 9 handles it?
> Are there hidden files there? I am sure there are but how are they handled?

The vast majority of Plan 9 programs don't use config files. For those that
do, user configuration is typically stored in $home/lib/.

-sl

[TUHS] the origin of dotfiles

[Lyndon Nerenberg]

> Just out of curiosity, how does plan 9 handles it?
> Are there hidden files there? I am sure there are but how are they handled?

ls(1) in Plan9 reports everything. There are no 'hidden' files according to the traditional UNIX meaning. The convention for config files is to place them under $home/lib. But there are so few of these it's not really an issue.  Most users get away with lib/profile and lib/plumbing and don't require anything else.

--lyndon

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[TUHS] the origin of dotfiles

[Dario Niedermann]

Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal at dataix.net> wrote:

> With all due respect to Rob Pike, I really do not find it all that
> interesting. .files being no different than any other file other than
> not being displayed in a listing ? it seriously makes utterly no
> difference other than the human PoV. Just because "We did it in Plan
> 9" does mean squat other than "We did it differently".


IMO the interesting - and funny - part is that dotfiles were born as an
unintended side effect of a flagrant kludge.

DN

[TUHS] the origin of dotfiles

[Tim Newsham]

good bugs dont die.. they turn into features.

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Dario Niedermann <dnied at tiscali.it> wrote:
> Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal at dataix.net> wrote:
>
>> With all due respect to Rob Pike, I really do not find it all that
>> interesting. .files being no different than any other file other than
>> not being displayed in a listing ? it seriously makes utterly no
>> difference other than the human PoV. Just because "We did it in Plan
>> 9" does mean squat other than "We did it differently".
>
>
> IMO the interesting - and funny - part is that dotfiles were born as an
> unintended side effect of a flagrant kludge.
>
> DN
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