From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 3e78a1e8 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 11:56:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 37D8E9C10F; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 21:56:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AF79BDD8; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 21:56:14 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="cl4O0yJ8"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3A9619BDD8; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 21:56:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-f173.google.com (mail-lj1-f173.google.com [209.85.208.173]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 643FA9BD25 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 21:56:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-f173.google.com with SMTP id r19so29170983ljg.3 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 03:56:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=RzL8fT4Ux6IadcYa4f8BpJMCzBYmzh3GNn89Sh6iE3g=; b=cl4O0yJ8035fXDD4RhdTZtRdK7Z2Hfv+FMe+UtBWe5nwjvzMlHo2vilktYxnLEKls8 AoJJ/OmrMT/inqAvdii6tuEUd4wW5FbTUHpWThUgvHA/YuypoDCxbCwTnTAyuhyGRTVV koOgJmdWJ/NlHE/TW4SSc0i0h2xnkBXyZBD6rlA7ykyaHOtNtt4eV0WVkIYcBxOtg9d1 LfATN3K3j+800Q1PXJws9KS68T0yJKfFjKveYkIGEGVypN3Xy0XcAP5NwTAinml9E4tD uTZF5E8oi6QTprZnjsUQWKvPdm53JCx5CFAsJL1rWQSq9g8VBJ81rK52wxWdkAuhMAai LidQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=RzL8fT4Ux6IadcYa4f8BpJMCzBYmzh3GNn89Sh6iE3g=; b=Ik4DdMQjLQkxlM2zIdRvBcuy/NPTP44EFnSHsr7Rj+CKx7a6DpV5VlmjJaik18zAQf nx4rRM36x6EO6zifm3zB0JPqFy0PHVxbAZrEUAGAOfIRhik9E5qyieiaUhIuwTd2ap1q mIHdlrmmwr2e5C7UB2Uvo5tlsFW8IAjXaw/aDl/upyDdspIz/zF/lHI9N+12x/VJCHHi mgDQuicfSOso2paNmh8AbKFQFn6Kh34C4rC78mH5qGyRBgailOc5WGL8WAL9QOQ3wxUB 0YfQcdVKHHHSlVMvaMZNcvE6PLxPvW3ZLfqy2UNGNV9czbX3C8IxXJ0n2hNBV8iNtBuY dMRw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXLfHv9z/BOinIt8giFIRk0yY2tuSKCwCvmgHuQ1HizO87kys72 o8Jt3LOfY1fYibO0f3cXiSAtLmB1DzcC516Tssg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzGhRrtD6wsH/3aOOQvAf4PGg9tkxFz/K/E2UYvWDttZhFSwKZQJviGjiwGDihtSvDpjc0OI1oX2qHot9r3p1Y= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:86c4:: with SMTP id n4mr8342638ljj.97.1579348569543; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 03:56:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=81lvaro_Jurado?= Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 12:55:58 +0100 Message-ID: To: Rob Pike Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000076d940059c68beee" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Distributed systems, was: On the origins of Linux - "an academic question" X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Historic Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000076d940059c68beee Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 07:26, Rob Pike wrote: > I am convinced that large-scale modern compute centers would be run very > differently, with fewer or at least lesser problems, if they were treated > as a single system rather than as a bunch of single-user computers ssh'ed > together. > > But history had other ideas. > > -rob > > IBM Watson is not that concept? I think history (bussiness) tends right now to a decentralized model for large systems, which is not clear if it=E2=80=99s an advantage for now. Rat= her than emulating centralized computing systems across many machines. Anyway, the main interest for researching about is still keeping the bussiness running. And for now Unix descendants do it really well. =E2=80=94 =C3=81lvaro Jurado --=20 =C3=81lvaro --00000000000076d940059c68beee Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 07:26, Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com> wrote:
I am convinced that large-scale modern = compute centers would be run very differently, with fewer or at least lesse= r problems, if they were treated as a single system rather than as a bunch = of single-user computers ssh'ed together.

But histor= y had other ideas.

-rob


IBM = Watson is not that concept?
I think history (bussine= ss) tends right now to a decentralized model for large systems, which is no= t clear if it=E2=80=99s an advantage for now. Rather than emulating central= ized computing systems across many machines. Anyway, the main interest for = researching about is still keeping the bussiness running. And for now Unix = descendants do it really well.

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