From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 4150 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2021 04:38:29 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Apr 2021 04:38:29 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3D93C9CAE2; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 14:38:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2D39C883; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 14:37:26 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="jSABLU8M"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9D3399C883; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 14:37:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qv1-f48.google.com (mail-qv1-f48.google.com [209.85.219.48]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 206D59C83D for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 14:37:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qv1-f48.google.com with SMTP id 30so6510567qva.9 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2021 21:37:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=biConyUFw1sGjcvn9wtCBSKTcP0kstpGzpD1QfLQzlo=; b=jSABLU8M55QkgWJ+RNh79jqh4iLTkpG0zhyzz50869MHNvX5XL0hzMby0SU+QycLzN oy8xsgJNGoYkrqN5cHnToFQcK8OXlmgg8fv4rOToC7bFNhtmUFys+1ld638LlQkGGcLa J6N88mYn2MhhGnpWQVskhkq8DWyK0SSkpvgimy0Gmn8RrtPXYS8mBZKU/OUZnriQQ0x7 BTG4VeQVeuY8H3KhYtIlNVWeqYkaoXfCobyJPvGuJBNfhIT9BEidWveub638XkipWcRZ +aBJyx614Cz6s0f9AyW1QCTHpaZPZNL+LZzrGtb99aMDdFJiSKct4T2WbgFX08wGLFPX 0mvA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=biConyUFw1sGjcvn9wtCBSKTcP0kstpGzpD1QfLQzlo=; b=sJNpejL0vORITn94WQktLg1iBSWRDl8SnZ5SjvxhrkWFQQNJFHvIBMQIVDDVCvMu5+ 4vJvtAC4LaGupG1/MqQKicdhok0Zf9QdXt0oPhFWxKiqDfX3ArI1XSpWqVrHvUav1agV bL49jV2wL29LXyN3i4RGMeWfGksw5u2irvfU6m+/m2FwqovEj9EZ1OoRA5Ho/7WbjfyK EXO7Qqw7h96ob8BbHZl2MyIki+FYjb9y2ECe2LXYAJfjyxnS6z23N1N607o6ysSSDGRg heHocaPYOCok5Put2XYSGpR5rYbeklrkoWCEupBvWRGkExzAskHaWe/YAo/4v+28WM3C FJxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531mc5Z6nTyiz30osB2lK10vLUhMqiRrICGhtz0XqMeKj9TsPupp r7bM23HqfAO4RCUrdwO2AeSao3jcKAkLOZ9bu5lc+DqDOJ4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwz9Y360dEyvujCURCZIXwDiQG0k+df23fQPHXw9NdTkgSyicFyVtFM1Z6Z9qHCOqI3f2B8VLIR5wXx8zy2D7E= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:448b:: with SMTP id m11mr11561436qvt.17.1617683841672; Mon, 05 Apr 2021 21:37:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210401145025.GA1202@naleco.com> <20210404052939.xivuinlcugqb5zde@localhost.localdomain> <19643.1617646039@hop.toad.com> In-Reply-To: From: Ed Bradford Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 23:37:09 -0500 Message-ID: To: TUHS main list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bde8d905bf465ec1" Subject: Re: [TUHS] How to Kill a Technical Conference X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000bde8d905bf465ec1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To old BTL or AT&T folks or anyone else who might know. I wonder. IBM introduced the IBM PC in August of 1981. That was years after a non-memory managed version of Unix was created by Heinze Lycklama, LSX. Is anyone on this list familiar with Bell Labs management thoughts on selling IBM on LSX rather than "dos"? While the anti-trust settlement was a couple years in the future, someone at AT&T must have been thinking about possibilities after a breakup. Ed On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 3:36 PM Richard Salz wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 3:32 PM Clem Cole wrote: > >> >> The key for all of us, in this list and else where in the reset of the >> UNIX industry is to try to avoid rewriting history, but to understand wh= at >> went down and accept it, and move on. >> > > In that light, let's start a new thread: "My Favorite Usenix Papers." > Change the subject line. No fair including one of your own on the list :) > >> =E1=90=A7 >> > --=20 Advice is judged by results, not by intentions. Cicero --000000000000bde8d905bf465ec1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To old BTL or AT&T folks or anyone else who might know.
I wonder. IBM introduced the IBM PC in August of 1981. That was years = after a non-memory managed version=C2=A0of Unix was created by Heinze Lyckl= ama, LSX. Is anyone on this list familiar with Bell Labs management thought= s on selling IBM on LSX rather than "dos"? While the anti-trust s= ettlement was a couple years in the future, someone at AT&T must have b= een thinking about possibilities after a breakup.

Ed

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On Mon, Ap= r 5, 2021 at 3:36 PM Richard Salz <rich.salz@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mon, Apr 5, 2= 021 at 3:32 PM Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:

=C2=A0 The key for= =C2=A0all of us, in this list and else where in the reset of the UNIX indus= try is to try to avoid rewriting history, but to understand what went down = and accept it, and move on.

In that light, let's start a new thread: "My Favo= rite Usenix Papers."=C2=A0 Change the subject line. No fair including = one of your own on the list :)
=E1=90=A7


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Advice is judged by results, not by in= tentions.
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