From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a41b7e82 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 01:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2271DA210D; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 11:21:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C33A20F1; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 11:21:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 999FEA20F1; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 11:21:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm1-f47.google.com (mail-wm1-f47.google.com [209.85.128.47]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E390EA20EF for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 11:21:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm1-f47.google.com with SMTP id a62so4106254wmh.4 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:21:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jtRjQNa4h6yOB3aaKUnu2gpR1KmllwP6JX7D7ae+Zdg=; b=L1yVcpyWrbdmt23h7LbB+JjFyYsDzeQKadcTfuV2WLrszpeAu9lX5ZDp1W/N8wZWJM cTK/+nBwQK0xey4A1COfoDq32U67NmdDM+ysVrdklRLvqwvSo0LlXd5uCqB/CC0bI8fg P3G+ibca/eBX12FNAxDG3LwLOKCsP9nOUfPiqXgxov6Xw43f8JLguGHJ6l6RijDNejl3 ySqEdoUl5bVqTQpO0FVSEMAGVyGzXY92Bn3ouFbI0q8ML8af0ebRmkm+EB4NoWh88Xng UpMw7bgd8SSMPvk2XnTsuKHaKUVYKKWxHUY0IGFwowPJ8uM4zCkA5l/HT/meEwGHV28c 9kDA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jtRjQNa4h6yOB3aaKUnu2gpR1KmllwP6JX7D7ae+Zdg=; b=rNHfOzsh5f38IpI+rfl8X/hel0p1BpJT67pb/9Q7SzoYpFHts3Y4OktFZ5HkeZ87Y3 I/pA6hV7pEH1Tzy61Q4mpqMyj6bQJ6FXL2Lh32SG2pZlsWLSu/QXIMtNHLZa73VJuaoQ pXiuUxQKlVWE3bv7pM0LCSMIvKl2YmhcemOT2iONZhgP4a8C5ekecq229NXOLksgk4E3 s8YEvOZbAhRnx+Fcz6nkBNLR31rY/zXFaAUJEEDR7s35jbVZNdSbPoGIjAE2KLdpJGqu G2SXtfdj0PfGqNumdc+ceH3POExHd7FgDtKrF/W45sbDyTcxOLQy6mAU6+DqiCnCexXe Blyw== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWaCygppmmIJDC9KJlBsaIE2/eJbkdZ82UNRwjGUTLWGIXx/aNNE eB4nkAUW2NWe1YmSy4DmgbuPR3sI95H/22dXejw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/VzBh+ReEYqO2vkBTgCr8zgRQLxeoK5Ty7DQzYM+16xqhfOkNqX5FT6vOw8Uuc1dwVAXfvuU8PF+NyNQJtsKpA= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:9dcc:: with SMTP id g195mr4219812wme.153.1544577664217; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:21:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181211184316.014E618C089@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: From: Jacob Ritorto Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:20:51 -0500 Message-ID: To: Clem Cole Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000000f7ce057cc9035c" Subject: Re: [TUHS] 2.9bsd with networking on 18-bit possible? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org, Noel Chiappa Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000000f7ce057cc9035c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Man, this thread is really going! Excellent to see; thank you, all! I'm going to of course begin with what Clem and others suggested and do it on a simh 11/45 initially to try to get the needed tcp stuff compiled in. In looking at https://minnie.tuhs.org//cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=2.9BSD/usr/net/sys/net/NOTES , it's mentioned that >>> The 4K bytes of in address malloc space for dynamic structures is ok for an >>> I/D machine, but may be tight on a /34 or /23. Not sure yet whether this >>> will squeeze in. , so it feels like there's hope that it can be done. Lots of rereading and research for me to get to the point of completely understanding that NOTES file. Anyway, I'm going to try and get a simh instance up somewhere publicly accessible (will provide creds to those curious / interested) and see where I get stuck. Will be back with more questions! Thanks again for the initial engagement on this! jake P.S. I do have a Xylogics Annex "terminal server" that'd be a great front end to the real 11/45's serial lines as Clem suggested, but for me, the romance of having the machine truly speaking tcp as intended is one of the goals. I'll keep the Annex handy for when it's running SysV and other things that definitively can't speak tcp. --00000000000000f7ce057cc9035c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Man, this thread is real= ly going!=C2=A0 Excellent to see; thank you, all!

I'= m going to of course begin with what Clem and others suggested and do it on= a simh 11/45 initially to try to get the needed tcp stuff compiled in.=C2= =A0 In looking at=C2=A0=C2=A0https://minnie.tuhs.org//cgi-bi= n/utree.pl?file=3D2.9BSD/usr/net/sys/net/NOTES , it's mentioned tha= t=C2=A0

>>> The 4K bytes of in address ma= lloc space for dynamic structures is ok for an
>>> I/D m= achine, but may be tight on a /34 or /23.=C2=A0 Not sure yet whether this
>>> will squeeze in.

, so it fee= ls like there's hope that it can be done.=C2=A0 Lots of rereading and r= esearch for me to get to the point of completely understanding that NOTES f= ile.

Anyway, I'm going to try and get a simh i= nstance up somewhere publicly accessible (will provide creds to those curio= us / interested) and see where I get stuck.=C2=A0 Will be back with more qu= estions!=C2=A0 Thanks again for the initial engagement on this!
<= br>

jake


P= .S.=C2=A0 I do have a Xylogics Annex "terminal server" that'd= be a great front end to the real 11/45's serial lines as Clem suggeste= d, but for me, the romance of having the machine truly speaking tcp as inte= nded is one of the goals.=C2=A0 I'll keep the Annex handy for when it&#= 39;s running SysV and other things that definitively can't speak tcp.



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