From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 087e8ae3 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2018 22:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id EE7FFA1F71; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:06:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A30A1F0B; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:05:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C5B8BA1F0B; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:05:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f48.google.com (mail-wr1-f48.google.com [209.85.221.48]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D7D2A1F06 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:05:31 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f48.google.com with SMTP id u3so12110579wrs.3 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2018 14:05:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=KEaZysFaBD8s20D9Pk/TU0loD6UAO/pGlPuS9YWen9k=; b=ror0rVCl2oizz/5BGTCXik3uBGsGS++QK3BmaLuNPqfNj+ZmhWnqva2chNXaWDnlOG lnLJBmioMCBa/r+kMRPmnmf+/o/xO6j8bFkiaohjIeSjDG0xMey5ZdXmGc/Azo6zxOFV oq0XZLrBvlufQonzLaICa95vrwmbF2Psx4P1ZP4p9lOTmRdrU3lyumgv5eJlk8kEV3JH rCbUph8GYI0XJI2naee0FkwLj5CG2tLZlJpy3PETFvAoJXJc/hPbXWO0X8WP6NZwcFea /VWyguIkaDsD9YDBjljBG0r1HbjT2F6fM0/andMOfGwyy0VAXIwv1qnL5pm2Lf4dZVKw Qz1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=KEaZysFaBD8s20D9Pk/TU0loD6UAO/pGlPuS9YWen9k=; b=U12PfVO6OTJOFW9zvLQ/dwKgOFlAIWx7Hb7T3SO3fPUUemN+gSz36Sy9dInYTCV+2P 8umDc/EX4X1nqSpItUAO7lDbqpAbbgDrcKu7y5mjBYuva+ZKRkQ91/5uCSF4VJNvGcRl vKrN2Yw31QAZqHafv2BB7zLCd497CJQha+76ly8buemE2/QAmYJvXG3Bz8BeFy3ORyX2 do6mR4+pOq3WBHGMyeiifGG/EAaQXZquZE4QccTft+jUmp/U009gS5eD3gS6J2Inf6RN 4LN6EYZhbelGN0+rASsxsN/BsKci9T2pHmHn/WX+ikMYKjDwy3s4F0k3SQ2d5MtY2scR KS1g== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWb+KVyBBXMZZd1D3SWjel87muhxtqX379p9OHGNU3LN4mMYVBgR NtQ6veag3tRkWW/QRyVm62wD0dv0rOOj9RtdlBcgF+vX X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/U6FxkbIew/nMNhu5O/eAuuzaES4m71UaYb9Ig0LWHpgNRubVsdXsv4YngiTdGEQ6cr2jnqYiU2dBnZFENFddk= X-Received: by 2002:adf:f903:: with SMTP id b3mr11918533wrr.82.1544479529327; Mon, 10 Dec 2018 14:05:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jacob Ritorto Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:05:18 -0500 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b55fcb057cb229f4" Subject: [TUHS] 2.9bsd with networking on 18-bit possible? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000b55fcb057cb229f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, I have an 11/45 I'm hoping will be running soon. I'd like to run 2.9BSD on it because it's the most highly functional system I know of that has "official hopes" to fit on such a restrictive machine. I've heard that it's really unlikely / tough to get a kernel built that'll run tcp (I care mostly about ftp and telnet) on such a small-memory-footprint machine. Is this true? Would anyone be willing to do a quick mentoring / working session with me to get me up to speed with the constraints I'm facing here and possibly give me a jump on making adjustments to build such a kernel if possible? thx jake P.S. There's kind of an implied challenge in the 2.11bsd setup docs, mentioning that "2.11BSD would probably only require a moderate amount of squeezing to fit on machines with less memory, but it would also be very unhappy about the prospect." I'm sure it's been attempted before, but would anyone be up to the challenge of trying to get that going with networking on an 18-bit-address-space pdp11? --000000000000b55fcb057cb229f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
=C2=A0 I have an 11/45 I'm ho= ping will be running soon. =C2=A0

I'd like to = run 2.9BSD on it because it's the most highly functional system I know = of that has "official hopes" to fit on such a restrictive machine= .

=C2=A0I've heard that it's really unlike= ly / tough to get a kernel built that'll run tcp (I care mostly about f= tp and telnet) on such a small-memory-footprint machine.=C2=A0 Is this true= ? =C2=A0

Would anyone be willing to do a quick men= toring / working session with me to get me up to speed with the constraints= I'm facing here and possibly give me a jump on making adjustments to b= uild such a kernel if possible?

thx
jake=

P.S. There's kind of an implied challenge in = the 2.11bsd setup docs, mentioning that "2.11BSD would probably only r= equire a moderate amount of squeezing to fit on machines with less memory, = but it would also be very unhappy about the prospect." =C2=A0

I'm sure it's been attempted before, but would any= one be up to the challenge of trying to get that going with networking on a= n 18-bit-address-space pdp11?

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