From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 20cd5f9c for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 03:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 01DA1A2158; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:37:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A517B94BB2; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:36:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 543B894BB2; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:27:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f53.google.com (mail-wr1-f53.google.com [209.85.221.53]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5111394113 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:27:31 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f53.google.com with SMTP id y16so11340436wrw.3 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 20:27:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=qJyPuDJSU44gRdZ6KVXIoI1dMy4rorY9+8NXs+e984E=; b=n0fqmefEGx9bN78CkNtHyx6cdqsnBFvXyKdCWEytX6wYuXb2bklVcnvJgaBYEok75J 4nIdCelrNUnQeRE1KTP3Jqg+kvvroPVdu2Re2SQdxLB34px2REO4XDtS5YwL7YpZ277g 1ND1jf3cr2CoMR+VXo11Fwz5bpPxZSuWwkAJkjxmml46GQmENzbfNalEgV6/0wT3Nht/ 5ozH/4x9Cn7SirfE5TZL2jNIBitSWUpFcIH4e3U04gdsJmKXH95ySyp/C01J5G7RYT55 /e5PUxAjMUR2SZ+XsclOJzlFI9VYTygNMRpLqPxxZlW5851Di7QdRsj8YPPTC2VOLbpi G2Pg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qJyPuDJSU44gRdZ6KVXIoI1dMy4rorY9+8NXs+e984E=; b=d2ejhHRL68odVILHYjgcpXFJAhb0JRymlCRJHSivBTdbJHAbt4egUdk0nfPBELYJ/q P++2LTMAeP9sTToEwHZsJgFWugjqqXD7/Mv2CA5o20b3hgy1VsLnFMwlEzv86kXjEu9S s1O03iBSemAS0c0QXUW0FZQ3hre1WUtrLMBrt8thruj8XMg8aW+WELe6bH41Er1FEXvU 5wFnAU+ICLkvThPBup/LzyhELweHoUnfgzVYC7vR2cpEB2VPoQglMCxAoeZBWN5pvn1C U2P+3S+8x6TFbAAvfIAMfIuuqLQfRvYsou5VIe8oTgSlR9cmc3MR5Uw3mhhXOf6rS4Cq 4WmA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKROFYG2EdYAp4gonJrf1jAYjRtVMkSzUpXVnvfZpHoBItAuvM0 F+2g44GRdp0OpMjsNDectTF9eprozoDxyWrXN5G/Wg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5e2gkR61+4zGrr/EXrZsb5k90mcV87MlCHaa2z42jqDnwJBqqGtthgMd9MxBbk44UMcQVC8QNu5hYookacxIpE= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4ac9:: with SMTP id y9-v6mr3941949wrs.290.1540524449794; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 20:27:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181025105647.1929518C0A0@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <20181025105647.1929518C0A0@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> From: Jacob Ritorto Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:27:18 -0400 Message-ID: To: Noel Chiappa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009910fb0579194ca7" Subject: Re: [TUHS] System III on 11/34 + rl02 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000009910fb0579194ca7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Isn't there still at least one ABLE ENABLE board out there extant that could be used to read the PROMs? Or is the actual original programming info itself needed to duplicate? On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:56 AM Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Jacob Ritorto > > > If this is true, I wonder why the install only offers rl01? > > Where does it say this? (I didn't search for that.) > > > > I'm totally in the market for an Able Enable board too! Out of > > zcuriosity, is it totally out of the question to just find the prints > > and do a production run? > > Rotsa ruck! They're down the same mine as Jimmy Hoffa!! :-) > > But seriously, if you could find them, that would be fantastic. I've > managed > to collect (thanks Clem!) a tiny bit of info about them: > > http://gunkies.org/wiki/Able_ENABLE > > and I _think_ I've worked out how they worked, but more is better. We had a > set of the prints at MIT BITD, but we didn't have the PROM/PLA/PAL/etc > programming info, and one would need that too to reproduce them. > > > I sure hope there's a pdp11 sdcard / usb disk solution someday like > they > > did for the Commodore 64 > > So Dave Bridgham and I have been working on a QBUS card with an FPGA that > uses > an SD card to hold the bits, and emulates an RK11/RP11/etc controller. We > have > a wire-wrap prototype working (the RK11's done, the RP11 should be a short > edit of that), and UNIX boots and runs. Now to turn it into PCB's... > > We've planned that the next step will be to do a UNIBUS version, which will > also include ENABLE functionality (although it won't be plug compatible > with > an ENABLE, the memory will be on-board). > > Now to find the time/energy to make it happen... :-( > > Noel > --0000000000009910fb0579194ca7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Isn't there still at least one ABLE ENABLE board out t= here extant that could be used to read the PROMs?=C2=A0
Or is the actua= l original programming info itself needed to duplicate?



On Th= u, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:56 AM Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > From: Jacob Ritorto

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > If this is true, I wonder why the install only offers rl= 01?

Where does it say this? (I didn't search for that.)


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > I'm totally in the market for an Able Enable board t= oo! Out of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > zcuriosity, is it totally out of the question to just fi= nd the prints
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > and do a production run?

Rotsa ruck! They're down the same mine as Jimmy Hoffa!! :-)

But seriously, if you could find them, that would be fantastic. I've ma= naged
to collect (thanks Clem!) a tiny bit of info about them:

=C2=A0 http://gunkies.org/wiki/Able_ENABLE

and I _think_ I've worked out how they worked, but more is better. We h= ad a
set of the prints at MIT BITD, but we didn't have the PROM/PLA/PAL/etc<= br> programming info, and one would need that too to reproduce them.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > I sure hope there's a pdp11 sdcard / usb disk soluti= on someday like they
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > did for the Commodore 64

So Dave Bridgham and I have been working on a QBUS card with an FPGA that u= ses
an SD card to hold the bits, and emulates an RK11/RP11/etc controller. We h= ave
a wire-wrap prototype working (the RK11's done, the RP11 should be a sh= ort
edit of that), and UNIX boots and runs. Now to turn it into PCB's...
We've planned that the next step will be to do a UNIBUS version, which = will
also include ENABLE functionality (although it won't be plug compatible= with
an ENABLE, the memory will be on-board).

Now to find the time/energy to make it happen... :-(

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Noel
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