The Unix Heritage Society mailing list
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: KenUnix <ken.unix.guy@gmail.com>
To: Ron Natalie <ron@ronnatalie.com>
Cc: Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>, tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Unix v7 icheck dup problem
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 11:45:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJXSPs8O3tNCSAjf2+7cL6XgxTgHpA4=rgwnGfLOS7LhfQnOKA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <em4ba758d8-5579-481a-9867-7b6055491551@ad99ed46.com>

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2052 bytes --]

Thanks for all your suggestions.

What I finally did was restore the ".disk" files from a previous backup
'tar -xf ~/research-backups/backup-mu-0228.tar'
under Linux then restored my backup copies of files using 'tar x0
backup.tap' under Unix v7.

All is well now. Thanks
Ken


On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 11:19 AM Ron Natalie <ron@ronnatalie.com> wrote:

> You had adb?    They hadn’t even released that when we were fixing
> things up.    If we had a mountable disk that got too corrupt to fix
> using the tools, we usually wrote our own and fixed the disk (all our
> packs in those days were pretty much RK05s) from a running sytsem.
>
> It was reqiured before you could come on the operations staff at my
> college to be able to be quizzed on just how the (then version 6)
> filesystem was layed out and what the possible corruptions were and how
> to fix them.
>
> The original V6 filesystem was pretty ugly in that it wasn’t careful in
> even trying to do operations in the right order so as not to lead to
> hideous corruptions (duplicated blocks etc…).   One of our summer
> projects at the BRL when we were interning up there was that one of us
> (not me) was to write an automatic disk fixer (I had a different
> project).   Bob never got too far with that.
>
> Clri was especially problematic as a tool.   If you wanted to zap a node
> that was a 0..0 (i.e., with a zero reference count AND not in any
> directory referneces), it would irreverably write zeros over all of it.
>    We changed it to “clam” which only zonked the mode bits which if you
> did it to the wrong inode, you could usually get back to some working
> state.
>
> Running icheck and dcheck were standard on reboots.   ncheck was pretty
> darned slow and we used it mostly for hunting down file names for things
> we knew were corrupted and relinking chunks of the filesystem that got
> detached from the root.
>
> The world changed when we got better file system code and fsck.
>
>

-- 
End of line
JOB TERMINATED

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2674 bytes --]

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-01 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-01 15:09 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-01 16:18 ` Ron Natalie
2023-03-01 16:45   ` KenUnix [this message]
2023-03-01 16:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-03-01 20:52 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-03-02  1:46   ` Jonathan Gray
2023-03-02  3:05     ` Dave Horsfall
2023-03-02  7:56       ` John Cowan
2023-03-02  8:53         ` Steve Nickolas
2023-03-02  8:01       ` Jonathan Gray
2023-03-02  7:34   ` arnold
2023-03-01 21:29 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-01 21:54 ` KenUnix
2023-03-01 21:55 ` John Cowan
2023-03-01 22:15 ` Jon Forrest
2023-03-02  4:16 ` Jonathan Gray
2023-03-02  1:36 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-02  1:56 ` John Cowan
2023-03-02  6:41   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-03-02  2:12 ` Bakul Shah
2023-03-02  2:46   ` Rich Salz
2023-03-02  1:59 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-02  2:11 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-03 18:22 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-03 19:25 ` Chet Ramey
2023-03-03 21:26   ` John Cowan
2023-03-04  0:23     ` Chet Ramey
2023-03-03 19:35 ` Clem Cole
2023-03-04  2:45   ` Jonathan Gray
2023-03-03 23:00 ` Jonathan Gray
2023-03-04  9:07 ` Jonathan Gray
2023-03-04 11:19   ` KenUnix
2023-03-04 14:41 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-04 14:49 ` KenUnix
2023-03-06  8:14 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-06  8:58 ` Jonathan Gray
2023-03-07  2:05   ` Kenneth Goodwin

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to='CAJXSPs8O3tNCSAjf2+7cL6XgxTgHpA4=rgwnGfLOS7LhfQnOKA@mail.gmail.com' \
    --to=ken.unix.guy@gmail.com \
    --cc=jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu \
    --cc=ron@ronnatalie.com \
    --cc=tuhs@tuhs.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).